thormas
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John Macquarie refers to or prefers to call panentheism by the term 'dialectical theism' in that there must be a dialectic or balancing between, for example, the transcendence and the immanence of God. In either case there is a profound difference (it seems) between panentheism and pantheism.
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What intrigues me is the question of immanence: is 'God' simply there to be discovered or is God 'active' in 'calling' to us and enabling us to live the truth we discern (which is not always easy or popular). It seems that in Christianity the tradition is that God is active.
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Intersting point yet the idea of, for example, pantheism seems at odds with the Jesus we 'experience' in the NT and the insights of the community (including biblical scholars). It remains an interesting issue.
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I like it with the caveat (for me) that our ideas and insights are insights into 'something that is Real.' I do like your side of fine tuning our discernment. Although I question whether it is 'each for oneself' since what truly benefits humanity and what is good is more than individual opinion but discernment of 'what is.' Plus there is no greater wisdom that can be had than over a cup of tea :+}
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Welcome VR..........
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I agree that one can provide a rational or philosophical support for doctrine - yet it is all still belief.
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This is also interesting and rings true given the diversity of opinion/belief I have read that defines itself as PC. However I wonder if it is confusing for a seeker or simply the curious who really long for insight into Christianity.
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I take your point about the steps but not sure how much of any dogma has sufficient rational support. Also not sure how we would measure or even know if most pCs reject many of the 8 steps. Why do you say that PC is an Episcopal mission to the unchurched? That is sort of intriguing.
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I follow you. I guess that someone else might define that mixed-up-ness as sin and the 'overcoming' of sin is the decision to not allow might to make right and even extend to the caring for those who are smaller and weaker - in other words a choice for love. And as you said and the religious person might agree: sin leads to destruction.
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I agree as it seems that Progressive Christianity is all over the place - perhaps that is good but also a bit hard to present to others.
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It comes from a better appreciation of the immanence of God in that I believe that God is active in creation, specifically calling us to fulfillment and giving us the courage/the power (through love) to response and grow. And all this is 'indirect' in that God does this in and through humanity (so it is a bit hidden). So, not just a response to life but a belief that Life itself both calls and enables (empowers) us to respond (so not a natural evolution) and become Human.
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Good to 'see' you again. I no longer phrase it as 'evolution into Christ' for the simple reason that evolution seems to suggest a natural growth and I think human movement into Christ (image & likeness of God) is a response to God. In other words, without God, there would be no movement, no natural evolution to him. It is not a built-in, rather it is a response. Not sure what 'evolutionary mixed-up-ness' is but I am curious.
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When time permits, I would be interested in your more mystical take on lamentation (or anything else).
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Also well said - even though he is verbose.
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In the interview, Wright states "......the whole biblical tradition of lament — lament without a note of penitence because, at the moment, there’s nothing to repent of." In my experience, this is true and rightly said: we meet crisis, sickness, death and there is indeed lamentation but there is nothing for which the sufferer must or should repent (nor is there an acceptance that 'God did it and could have prevented it.'). Herein is mystery and it seems the happenstance of creation. Good find.
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I never mind an intellectual being a bit verbose, seems to come with the territory. And I do like those who speak about theology and the Bible to be intellectual - as opposed to the opposite. I have to finish reading as I am not familiar with lamentation. We seem to differ on the relationship of Jesus and God but that is fine.
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Burl, What is your take on Wright and on Christian lamentation?
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Good find, still reading it but food for thought and careful consideration. The idea of lament is a new, an interesting one, for me given my take on theodicy. However the idea of weeping at the unfairness speaks volumes although the cry of why God has forsaken us, does not speak to me. Much to consider, thanks.
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Good find, I enjoyed it.
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Genuine assimilation allows for true diversity/difference AND establishing a society wherein all are actually equal.
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Perhaps whomever Biden selects can provide aid to the 'orange stable genius' when he needs a drink of water, help walking, help speaking, help with pronunciation or simple help being a decent, caring human being.
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Obviously, BLM is even more meaningful today and to many more of all backgrounds, across the country, as evidenced over the past 6-7 weeks.
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Well said Paul. Lots of propaganda and lots of questionable (as you have done) comments.
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Well, statues, monuments, forts, schools, streets..........................best to begin to change now and move into the future. Biden vs. the trumpster on money and possible laundering. A winner for the dems.
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.......ample evidence that too few, of certain of the young, don't read and are doomed to follow in the footsteps of those of their elders who are also out of step with that is going on in America.
