tariki Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 (edited) 5 hours ago, toty said: The fake media distorts the image of Islam and laughs at the minds of ignorant people Therefore, people embrace Islam after studying it and knowing the tolerant truth of Islam Iran is not an Islamic country Shiites do not represent the tolerant teachings of Islam He refused to swear an oath on the Bible.. The first Muslim American police chief to take the oath on the Holy Quran why i became a sunni muslim لماذا اصبحت سنياً Shia's are not Muslims (Off) - by Bilal philips الشيعه كفار 2- The truth is that many women are not veiled in Islamic countries, and no one forces them to do anything. We only provide them with advice and guidance. They must return to the tolerant teachings of Islam of their own free will 1_ Charm is deceitful and beauty is vain, but a woman who fears Adonai will be praised. Proverbs 31:30 It shows that beauty and beauty are deception and apparent deception, and a good woman is the one who is praised by people for her good action 2_ The First Letter of Paul to the Corinthians: Chapter 11 6 For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head. Here, a woman who prays with her hair uncovered should cut her hair or shave her head If we apply this, we will not find a Christian woman with her hair The truth is that a woman should modestly cover her hair during prayer and when she leaves the house 3_ I also want the women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, adorning themselves, not with elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, 10 but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God. 1 Timothy 2:9-15 The writer of the letter advises that women should appear in a decent and modest appearance He covers the faults, and makes it clear that the true adornment of a woman is reason, modesty and sobriety It is not the visible adornment, and after that the writer forbids the ornaments of all kinds And adornment with clothes or hair braids, and he says in the end that this is what befits a believing woman Taqiyya, where true adornment lies in fearing God and obeying His command DR ZAKIR NAIK - MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT ISLAM 7 - "HIJAAB - SUBJUGATES THE WOMEN" - PART 1 DR ZAKIR NAIK - MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT ISLAM 7 - "HIJAAB - SUBJUGATES THE WOMEN" -PART 2 European women 100 years ago used to wear the hijab and the niqab A young man asks why the dress of Muslim women has not changed with the passage of time, like the rest of the religions || Amazing reply Dr. Zakir Naik Sorry mate, you are just another example of the "my religion is perfect" type and any examples drawn from the 1500 or so years of the existence of your Faith that demonstrate intolerance, brutality, ignorance and downright stupidity is dismissed as "not true Islam". I have heard it from Christians. Any criticism directed at the actual historical reality of their Faith is met with the "not true Christianity" cry. Pathetic. Edited May 6 by tariki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tariki Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 The topic thread is "Love and Compassion". Examples of both are in evidence each and every day, by people of diverse Faiths, and people of no particular Faith at all. Trying to tie "truth" to any one Creed/Faith is now dead in the water. Personally I'm sick of Religion and of any attempt to tie "truth" to any of its expressions. I'm signing off for the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toty Posted May 7 Author Share Posted May 7 The prophet prohibits blood animals sports Blood animal sports was a long entrenched habit at the time of the prophet, and even is still ongoing, this was opposed by the prophet and even made prohibited. It was reported that Prophet Muhammad prohibited the killing of a bird for the sake of pleasure and not for a specific beneficial need, the Prophet said, “Anyone who would kill a bird, this bird would come on Doomsday and say, “God, this person killed me for pleasure and not for benefit.” He prohibited taking any animal or any living creature as a target for shooting. The Prophet (PBUH) said; “Do not clip the forelock of a horse, for decency is attached to their forelock, for it protects it; nor their tail, for it is fly-flap.” (Narrated by Utba bin Farqad abu abd) In this respect as Ibn Umar said; “I heard the Messenger of Allah, , say, whoever mutilates a living creature and then does not repent, Allah will mutilate him on the Day of Judgment” Jabir told that God’s Messenger forbade the striking the face or branding on the face of any animal. He said when an ass, which had been branded on his face, had passed by: “God curse the one who branded it.” (Narrated by Jabir bin Abdullah) Why Jesus returns to earth? أي مسيحي ينتقد الشريعة الإسلامية أرسل له هذا الفيديو | دانيال حقيقتجو الأمين العام للأمم المتحدة يستشهد بآية من القرآن The Secretary-General of the United Nations cites a verse from the Qur’an What did Mr. Green from Texas say about Islam in America Does Quran teaches to kill non muslims or to help them Dr Zakir Naik #HUDATV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romansh Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 It is all not bad news toty. and here is a sensible explanation: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toty Posted May 7 Author Share Posted May 7 Some polemicists among Christians, having seen the extent of conversions from Christianity to Islam, took up the idea of propagating false conversions in the opposite direction. It is not a question here of denying this reality, but simply of exposing the false conversion stories circulating on the internet. So, in my opinion this “testimony” should be classified under the heading “ignorant people posing as ex-Muslims”. There are so many on the internet, He is implementing a program assigned by the Church with a handful of false suspicions against Islam. It's their job You and he do not know the origins of Islam, nor the reason for the revelation of the verses, nor even the true history, nor the original language of the Quran. “And you’re not an expert on comparative religion either.” Learn and study Islam from its original sources in specialized Islamic centers, first of all, instead of fighting Islam and casting cheap ecclesiastical suspicions prepared in advance to deceive people and lead them away from the truth. see here Unstoppable Spread of Islam! - Here's why Millions Convert! Islam is the Fastest Growing Religion in the World – Dr Zakir Naik Does the Sun orbit around the Earth according to the Qur'an? Dr Zakir Naik responds Does the earth revolve around the sun or the sun revolves around the earth in Islam? Assim al hakeem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romansh Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 5 hours ago, toty said: Islam is the Fastest Growing Religion in the World – Dr Zakir Naik It is also the fastest dyeing religion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toty Posted May 8 Author Share Posted May 8 (edited) Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon himworshiped God (the Father) alone, like Christ and all the prophets before him Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him despised false worship to any man-made gods or images or anything in creation as a god. He hated all of the complexities and degradation to which it leads. This is in direct obedience to the second commandment in the above mentioned verses, "Thou shalt not make any graven images." But we find pictures and statues in churches, and some Christians prostrate to the statue of Jesus and prostrate to the statue of Mary Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, performed these same ceremonies in worship to what we find the prophets doing before him, bowing to toward the ground and prostrating (falling on the face) while praying and worshipping. Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, never drank alcohol or strong drink, even though it was a very normal thing for people of his time and place. "O you believers! Intoxicating drinks, gambling, fortune telling, etc. is the hated work of the devil. So stay away from all of that horrible stuff, that you will be successful." see here https://www.facebook.com/100059866625821/videos/1671038450386044 Over 1000 American Soldiers Accepts Islam Daughter of a US Military Officer Converts to Islam I Wanted To Kill Muslims — Now I Am One | AJ+ Edited May 8 by toty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romansh Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 (edited) Some actual data ... rather than propaganda. About a quarter of adults who were raised Muslim (23%) no longer identify as members of the faith, roughly on par with the share of Americans who were raised Christian ... Just curious, what is your take on apostasy? People who leave Islam and then advocate against the Islamic religion? Here's another article: Middle East: Are people losing their religion? However, several recently conducted and very comprehensive surveys in the Middle East and Iran, have come to similar conclusions: They all show an increase in secularization and growing calls for reforms in religious political institutions. So there is some good news. Hooray! Edited May 8 by romansh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romansh Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Another interesting article from the BBC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romansh Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Naik being loving and compassionate: Zakir Naik: "If the person who becomes a non-Muslim propagates his faith and speaks against Islam [where] there is Islamic rule, then the person is to be put to death."[151] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toty Posted May 9 Author Share Posted May 9 I previously made clear that Iran is not an Islamic country Also, not every news in the media or the Internet about Islam and Muslims is true Especially since Wikipedia is written by Jews and Christians There are many enemies of Islam, whether in the East or the West Because Islam is the true religion, the religion of all the prophets Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad, peace be upon them Dr Zakir Naik does not say this nonsense in the Qur’an kill the apostate in one case, which is The state of war when this person joins the enemy and reveals the secrets of his country to the enemies and exposes people to occupation and killing A verse : “There is no compulsion in Faith. The correct way has become distinct from the erroneous. Now, whoever rejects the Tāghūt (the Rebel, the Satan) and believes in Allah has a firm grasp on the strongest ring that never breaks. Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing. "(Quran, 2: 256) Another "And had your Lord willed, those on earth would have believed - all of them entirely. Then, [O Muḥammad], would you compel the people in order that they become believers? (Quran, 10:99) In the exceptional case that we are in a situation of war, this is absolutely true, because whoever leaves his religion is guilty of treason in the eyes of an entire community and threatens the safety of many people. And in all the societies that have existed on this planet, not just in Islam, the traitors have always received the heaviest sentences. “It is impossible that an individual who studies the personality of the great Prophet of the Arabs, how he lived and educated the people, does not feel a deep esteem and a great respect for this honorable Prophet, one of the great Messengers of 'Allah' at that time means 1400 yrs ago, this rule of killing a murtad because of some another reasons and conditions was applicable but not because that he became murtad. If a person can join Islam willingly , then he has the right to leave it also. Because Islam advocates freedom of religion. حكم المرتد في الاسلام - ذاكر نايك Dr Zakir Naik about killing murtad in islam Islam And Secularism - Dr. Zakir Naik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toty Posted May 9 Author Share Posted May 9 The Prophet Jesus, peace be upon him, conveyed his message to the Jews and the time of his message ended Jesus said that he came only for the lost sheep of Israel the Jews tried to kill him and did not hear his message and the Christians destroyed his true teachings and believed the Jews and Romans, enemies of Christ, when they said that Christ was crucified Christians are worse than pagans because they kill their God for their sins For this reason, Christ will return as a judge among them and not a legislator of a new religion also Christ will return and tell people that he is only a prophet of God and not a god or equal to God , Christ said 3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. John 17:3 Christ did not claim divinity and restricted divinity to God (the Father) alone He did not say that he is a god or that the Holy Spirit is a god Christ will rule according to the law of Islam, according to the law of all the prophets, which is the worship of God (the Father) only Then there is a fact that many of those affiliated with Christ, peace be upon him, overlook, which is that the Christian beliefs inspired by the New Testament meet radically with the old pagan beliefs. The Trinity, the Incarnation, eternal sin, atonement with salvation, crucifixion, and redemption, the Nicene Creed, the Lord’s Supper (Holy Supper) and baptisms, and ecclesiastical sacraments... From Atheist to Imam! - Stressful Shahadah Moments! @UTICAMASJID Most Feared Yakuza Gangster Becomes a Muslim U.S. Soldier Converts To Islam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romansh Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 2 hours ago, toty said: I previously made clear that Iran is not an Islamic country This is an informal fallacy .... No true Scotsman fallacy 2 hours ago, toty said: Also, not every news in the media or the Internet about Islam and Muslims is true Especially since Wikipedia is written by Jews and Christians Dr Zakir Naik does not say this nonsense Here's the context for the quote ... it is at the top of the fourth page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toty Posted May 10 Author Share Posted May 10 one of the miracles of the words Muhammad peace be upon him, which had the scientific research of 1431 in which talk about that dog saliva is pure and full of germs harmful if put the dog mouth and tongue in a pot of food can not be cleaned, but seven times the first earth and the other six ordinary cleaning fluid Uniqueness of the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him only Does anyone in the past knows about these bacteria and germs and how to treat them? And see the result you will not find any bacteria And confirmed by the microscope This shows the sincerity of the Prophet Mohammad peace be upon him Because he did not have a microscope at the time Should avoid touching their dogs mouth, because the saliva of the dog full of germs And dogs eat in a bowl away from your food your Dog is used in agriculture and guard, fishing and livestock and for the purposes of the arrest of criminals Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him does not hate the dog But Select the rules to deal with it There is a Hadith that suggests kindness to dogs and animals: Volume 3, Book 43, Number 646: Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "A man felt very thirsty while he was on the way, there he came across a well. He went down the well, quenched his thirst and came out. Meanwhile he saw a dog panting and licking mud because of excessive thirst. He said to himself, "This dog is suffering from thirst as I did. " So, he went down the well again and filled his shoe with water and watered it. Allah thanked him for that deed and forgave him. The people said, "O Allah's Apostle! Is there a reward for us in serving the animals? "He replied:" Yes, there is a reward for serving any animate (living being). " (See Hadith No. 551) (From Abu Hurayrah, may Allah be pleased with him said: The Messenger of Allah may Allah bless him and grant him peace: "purification of the vessel, if any of you been licked by a dog is to wash it seven times" and: is the Messenger of Allah may Allah bless him and grant him peace of killing dogs and then said: "What mind and mind the dogs, "then permits the hunting dog and sheep dog and said:" If a dog licks the vessel let him wash it seven times and rub it eighth in the dirt) dog licks the vessel: If you drink from the tip of his tongue. rub: Any Dkouh. Scientifically proven that the dog carrier for some serious diseases, as living in the intestine worm called meningococcal out eggs with feces, and when Lick anus with his tongue moves the eggs to it, and Ntql it to the pots and dishes and the hands of his companions, and which enter the stomachs Vomaaúhm, Vtnhal shell eggs and graduated from embryos that leaks into the blood and sputum, and transmitted them to all parts of the body, and especially to the liver because the main refinery in the body ... Then grow in the user enters it and a bag full of children, fetuses, and the water for a net fluid spring. And may grow up to become a bag the size of the baby's head, and called the disease: disease cyst water, and are the symptoms depending on the member who Taatbed it, and what was most serious in the brain or the heart muscle, and did not have surgical treatment can only process ... And there is a risk of another disease transmitted by the dog and the dog is a disease caused by leaking meat infected with the dog first, and then transmitted it to humans through the saliva of a dog bite, Belhsh wound in the human body ... The benefits of belonging to the dog, then some people, but these evils become harmful to everyone, so the Prophet peace be upon him and killing dogs, and dog licenses, hunting and plowing and cattle because of the need. At the time of the Prophet may Allah bless him and grant him peace cyst disease is not known, of course, water, and did not know that the origin of dogs, and rabies They were called by the infected dog: the dog vicious. The modern scientists analyzed the dust of the cemetery to know what the bacteria, and they expect to find a lot of harmful bacteria, and because a lot of people are dying disease infectious germ, but they did not find in the dust impact of these harmful germs harmful ... Fastntjoa so that the soil property killing harmful germs, and not for the danger to spread and has gotten her, and their predecessors the Prophet may Allah bless him and grant him peace to the report of this fact, آبيل: سبب اسلامى انى قرات القران صدفة !!!! Media and Islam: War or Peace - Dr. Zakir Naik Army Officer accepts Islam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romansh Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Why is apostasy even a criminal offence in a loving and compassionate society? It is not a crime in Christian and Jewish societies. Or indeed irreligious ones. Apostasy is a criminal offence in the following countries: Afghanistan – criminalized under Article 1 of the Afghan Penal Code, may be punishable by death.[18] Brunei – criminalized under Section 112(1) of the Bruneian Syariah Penal Code, punishable by death.[19][20] However, Brunei has a moratorium on the death penalty.[21] Iran – while there are no provisions that criminalize apostasy in Iran, apostasy may be punishable by death under Iranian Sharia law, in accordance with Article 167 of the Iranian Constitution.[22] Malaysia – while not criminalized on a federal level, apostasy is criminalized in six out of thirteen states: Kelantan, Malacca, Pahang, Penang, Sabah and Terengganu. In Kelantan and Terengganu, apostasy is punishable by death, but this is unenforceable due to restriction in federal law.[23] Maldives – criminalized under Section 1205 of the Maldivian Penal Code, may be punishable by death.[24][25] Mauritania – criminalized under Article 306 of the Mauritanian Penal Code, punishable by death. When discovered, secret apostasy requires capital punishment, irrespective of repentance.[26] Qatar – criminalized under Article 1 of the Qatari Penal Code, may be punishable by death.[26] Saudi Arabia – while there is no penal code in Saudi Arabia, apostasy may be punishable by death under Saudi Sharia law.[26] United Arab Emirates – criminalized under Article 158 of the Emirati Penal Code, may be punishable by death.[27] Yemen – criminalized under Article 259 of the Yemeni Penal Code, punishable by death.[26] 11 hours ago, toty said: the Jews tried to kill him and did not hear his message You sound like a traditional Christian of old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toty Posted May 10 Author Share Posted May 10 Whoever leaves Islam must be killed. False in the vast majority of cases. True under certain conditions. in the Qur’an kill the apostate in one case, which is The state of war when this person joins the enemy and reveals the secrets of his country to the enemies and exposes people to occupation and killing A verse : “There is no compulsion in Faith. The correct way has become distinct from the erroneous. Now, whoever rejects the Tāghūt (the Rebel, the Satan) and believes in Allah has a firm grasp on the strongest ring that never breaks. Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing. "(Quran, 2: 256) Another "And had your Lord willed, those on earth would have believed - all of them entirely. Then, [O Muḥammad], would you compel the people in order that they become believers? (Quran, 10:99) In the exceptional case that we are in a situation of war, this is absolutely true, because whoever leaves his religion is guilty of treason in the eyes of an entire community and threatens the safety of many people. And in all the societies that have existed on this planet, not just in Islam, the traitors have always received the heaviest sentences. “It is impossible that an individual who studies the personality of the great Prophet of the Arabs, how he lived and educated the people, does not feel a deep esteem and a great respect for this honorable Prophet, one of the great Messengers of 'Allah' “ The apostate is punished with death! in the bible 2 If a man or woman living among you in one of the towns the Lord gives you is found doing evil in the eyes of the Lord your God in violation of his covenant, 3 and contrary to my command has worshiped other gods, bowing down to them or to the sun or the moon or the stars in the sky, 4 and this has been brought to your attention, then you must investigate it thoroughly. If it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, 5 take the man or woman who has done this evil deed to your city gate and stone that person to death. 6 On the testimony of two or three witnesses a person is to be put to death, but no one is to be put to death on the testimony of only one witness. 7 The hands of the witnesses must be the first in putting that person to death, and then the hands of all the people. You must purge the evil from among you. ” (Deuteronomy 17,2-7) The Annotated Bible (Deuteronomy 17,2) says this: 17.2 2 to 7 Attempt to introduce idolatry. This case, already assumed at 13.6-11, is repeated here from the point of view of the procedure to be followed. It is developed at length, for the reason that the penalty to be applied is death. We note that whoever turns to another religion must be immediately killed according to the order of God, without any distinction whether he is male or female! By worshiping other than their own and abandoning their religion, they submit to the supreme punishment of death! Other verses stipulate this death penalty for the apostate or for one who blasphemes the name of the Lord. “If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. 9 You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 11 Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again. ” (Deuteronomy 13,6-11) This passage specifies that if a person of your family (let us understand here the term “family” to designate the descendants of the 12 tribes of Israel) invites you to worship other gods, and asks you to apostasy just as that person did. apostasized, it is then necessary to have the death penalty applied (by stoning) حكم المرتد في الاسلام - ذاكر نايك Dr Zakir Naik about killing murtad in islam 2- The Jews do not recognize Jesus as their Savior The Jews tried to kill him and accused his mother of adultery, but the Bible did not exonerate Mary The Accusation Insults Against Blessed Mary, Sanhedrin 106a, says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters." Also in footnote #2 to Shabbat 104b it is stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men. "Jesus was a bastard born of adultery." (Yebamoth 49b, p.324). "Mary was a whore: Jesus was an evil man." (Sanhedrin 106a &b, p.725). "Jesus was a magician and a fool. Mary was an adulteress". (Shabbath 104b, p.504). But the Qur’an declared Mary’s innocence of adultery and honored Christ, the Prophet of God, peace be upon him Judaism does not accept Jesus as a divine being, an intermediary between humans and God, a messiah, or holy. Belief in the Trinity is also held to be incompatible with Judaism, as are a number of other tenets of Christianity. see here .سألنا اليهود: الكنيسة أم المسجد ؟ شاهد الإجابة We asked the Jews: the church or the mosque? See the answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romansh Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 10 minutes ago, toty said: False in the vast majority of cases. How much time do you spend on Muslim forums telling other Muslims they are wrong? Bearing in mind you are on a Progressive Christian website and you clearly have no idea of what their beliefs are. Did you look at the context of the quote from Naik? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romansh Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 20 hours ago, toty said: False in the vast majority of cases. True under certain conditions. Are the certain conditions met here? On 5/8/2024 at 1:31 PM, romansh said: Naik: "If the person who becomes a non-Muslim propagates his faith and speaks against Islam [where] there is Islamic rule, then the person is to be put to death." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toty Posted May 12 Author Share Posted May 12 Cats hold a special place to the Muslims, since Prophet Muhammad is very fond of cats. One story mentioned that a cat saved Prophet Mohammad from being bitten by a deadly snake. There was also a story of the Prophet cutting off his shirt sleeve rather than disturbing his sleeping cat when it was time for prayers. When people at the mosque noticed him wearing a torn sleeved robe, they asked "Holy Prophet, why is your garment torn?" The Prophet simply replied that his cat is sleeping soundly upon the sleeve of his robe and rather than disturbing the cat, he cut the sleeve and put on what remained of his garment. The Prophet is so kind to animals that he would not pull the garment or awaken the cat, instead he rather cut his robe and let the cat sleep undisturbed. It is a well-known fact that the Prophet is a cat lover and respect animals. Muslims are taught to follow his exemplary behaviour on kindness to animals. A companion of the Prophet was given the name Abu Hurairah. The name Abu Hurairah means 'father of the cats'. Abu Hurairah was given this name because where ever he goes, he always had a kitten with him. The Prophet also mentioned "To catch birds and imprison them in cages without any special purpose is considered abominable." Hence if you have birds living in cages, set them free. In Hadith (Muslim religious text) of Sahih Bukhari, Vol. 4, Book 56, Number 673, narrated by Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "While a dog was going round a well and was about to die of thirst, an Israeli prostitute saw it and took off her shoe and watered it. So Allah forgave her because of that good deed. " In another Hadith text, the Prophet told his companions of a woman who would be sent to Hell for having locked up a cat; not feeding it, nor even releasing it so that it could feed herself. " So what you think? Holy Prophet Muhammad (SAW) is the most kindest person this universe. Hadith narrated by Abdullah Ibn Umar (R.A.) that once a person came to the Prophet of Allah (PBUH) and asked "O Prophet of Allah! To what extent should we forgive the mistakes and faults of our slaves and servants?" The Prophet (PBUH) remained silent whereupon the man repeated this question. The Prophet (PBUH) again, remained silent and when the man asked for a third time, he replied "Seventy times a day." (According to Anas): I was eight years of age when I became the Holy Prophet Mohammad's (SAWS) servant and served him for 10 years. He never rebuked me even when I broke or damaged something. If his family said something strong, then he would tell them leave it & to forget about it. Whatever Allah has destined will happen". The Quran or Bible, Which is God's Word Ahmed Deedat Answers: "Corruption in Bible or Quran?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVZ7MLQorwA INNOCENCE OF MUSLIMS response مترجم بالعربيه محاضرة الهدف من الخلق كاملة || ذاكر نايك - The Purpose of the Creation Full || Zakir Naik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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toty Posted May 13 Author Share Posted May 13 (edited) God sends prophets to people so that they worship the one God, not three And so that people follow the true religion, the religion of all the prophets And God does not want to kill people, but people destroy themselves by following misguidance and worshiping humans and idols and others And they do evil, and religion is innocent of them The Torah and the bible have been distorted, so God sent the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, with the Qur’an to correct the previous books God says in the Qur’an Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors. Surah Al-Ma'idah - 32 - Quran the verse of the Holy Quran which has been mentioned in connection with the right to life, God has said: "And whoever saves a life it is as though he had saved the lives of all mankind" (5:32). There can be several forms of saving man from death. A man may be ill or wounded, irrespective of his nationality, race or colour. If you know that he is in need of your help, then it is your duty that you should arrange for his treatment for disease or wound. If he is dying of starvation, then it is your duty to feed him so that he can ward off death. If he is drowning or his life is at stake, then it is your duty to save him. You will be surprised to hear that the Talmud, the religious book of the Jews, contains a verse of similar nature, but records it in altogether different form. It says: "Whoever destroyed a life of the Israelite, in the eyes of the Scripture, it is as if he destroyed the whole world. And whoever protected and saved one life of the Israelite, in the light of the Scripture, it is as if he saved the whole world." Talmud also contains the view that if a non-Israelite is drowning and you tried to save him then you are a sinner. Can it be given a name other than racialism? We regard it as our duty to save every human life, because it is thus that we have been enjoined in the Holy Quran. We find in the Bible 27 But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me.’”Luke 19:27 the Bible says to kill the disbeliever, with your hand, even if it be your own flesh and blood. 6) “If your brother, your mother’s son, or your son or daughter, or the wife you cherish, or your friend who is like your own soul, entices you secretly, saying, ‘Let’s go and serve other gods’ (whom neither you nor your fathers have known, 7) of the gods of the peoples who are around you, near you, or far from you, from one end of the earth to the other end), you shall not consent to him or listen to him; and your eye shall not pity him, nor shall you spare or conceal him. 9) Instead, you shall most certainly kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. (Deuteronomy 13: 6-9) see here Why did this young Scottish man convert to Islam? I now realize why they are fighting Islam! https://www.facebook.com/100059866625821/videos/894823738915391 The Secretary-General of the United Nations cites a verse from the Qur’an What did Mr. Green from Texas say about Islam in America Edited May 13 by toty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romansh Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 (edited) 2 hours ago, toty said: worship the one God, not three You clearly don't understand Christianity, nor the theology of the folk that might call themselves Progressive Christians. You don't enter into discussion, you won't answer simple questions and you are (I suspect) a sock puppet that has been here before. And post spam all over the internet. Edited May 13 by romansh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulS Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 9 hours ago, romansh said: You clearly don't understand Christianity, nor the theology of the folk that might call themselves Progressive Christians. You don't enter into discussion, you won't answer simple questions and you are (I suspect) a sock puppet that has been here before. And post spam all over the internet. I've been away a bit Rom (and others). I've permitted the droll cut & paste posts to date simply because they are restrained to this one single thread. If it spreads, it will be removed. Certainly posts that are just bombing away with such material and not interested in general discussion or feedback, are against the intent of this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toty Posted May 14 Author Share Posted May 14 For the sake of brevity, we condense animals rights granted by Mohammed the messenger of Islam in the following points: 1-Animals are to be protected against any harm. 2-Animals are to be given utmost care 3- Animals are to be lavished with mercy 4- Animals are to be fed 5-Animals are not to be overburdened or oppressed 6-Animals are to be given health care. 7-Animals are to live in clean environment 8-Animals are not to be cursed 9-Animals are not to be mutilated. 10-Nothing to be held in their necks lest they are suffocated. 11--Baby animals are to given full suckling 12-Animals are not to be burnt with fire 13-Animals are not to be given bad food. Dr Zakir Naik uses Bible to prove Trinity is a Lie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romansh Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Again @toty another opportunity lost to try and persuade people and explain to people where we are wrong. Instead, we get your interminable spam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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