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  1. Good point - I hadn't noticed that the 2020 version was still dated 2012! Unfortunately I have no idea if the ProgressiveChristianity.org website intend to release a later guide or not. Sorry.
  2. Brad, I see that the ProgressiveChristianity.org site offers a study guide for the 8 Points for $15 here: https://progressivechristianity.org/resources/study-guide-for-the-8-points-of-progressive-christianity-2012/ You can find a substantial excerpt for Point 6 here: https://progressivechristianity.org/resources/point-6-from-the-8-points-study-guide-peace-and-justice/ But other than that, I'm not sure there are any free study guides. Cheers Paul
  3. Personally, I like the good bits of the Christian faith that try to encourage love for all, forgiveness of others, less judgement of our fellow humans, and peace in general.
  4. You're far from dumb, John, I have no doubt. Hope it's now working okay for you.
  5. I guess for many, it is the comfort that they get from reading and perhaps believing in such texts. It's certainly a cultural phenomenon (i.e many are born into it) and others who might be attracted later in life either need something or perhaps are looking for something else. I'm not saying that's the best way for things to proceed, but rather just offering my two cents about why some people find ancient texts like the Christian bible as attractive.
  6. Too true Rom. I think even back in the days of ancient Rome, people were attracted to 'old' religions, philosophies, world views, etc. I think linking Christianity to the older ancient Hebrew bible was the foot in the door for Christianity in Rome at that time. But like you say, our modern knowledge of where our species came from and how it developed certainly warrants adoption of new perspectives.
  7. John, Did you have a look at Rom's guidance? Here it is repeated in case: Click on yourself top right hand corner Account settings Notification settings Mentions and My Content Highlight email You should be able to activate either or both site notifications and personal email notifications. Cheers Paul
  8. This seems to me to be very similar to non-religious meditation. I utilize an app called 1GiantMind which follows the same process, but focuses on using the word 'ahum' repetitively, and encourages you to not force your thoughts but just gently come back to the word 'ahum' when you mind drifts and starts thinking. I really find it stress-reducing and beneficial.
  9. At 8.01 the speaker says "But these contradictions in no way discount the message that these authors were trying to communicate". I don't know how everybody else understands integrity and truth-telling, but for me, if the author is making stuff up just so they can present their view, then I think it is very reasonable to discount their message, or at the very least, question it. Perhaps instead of contradiction we are simply often dealing with storytelling that has no factual basis.
  10. Hi LouAnn, I'm all the way over here in Australia so not much use to you for recommendations, but I hope you find something that suits your needs. Cheers Paul
  11. Other than quoting somebody (like I have you here - so you should have received a notification that I replied to your comment) the only other way I think is if it is your thread (like it is WandaM's here) then they should also receive a notification that somebody has commented in the thread they initiated. So in short, WandaMc should get notifications that somebody has commented in their thread.
  12. Thanks John. I will investigate Quora further. I guess you get what you pay for, hence our higher annual fee which covers the cost of the hosting and the licence/platform to use their (Invisions) Forum software. Thanks for the offer to assist with costs - I have sent you an email.
  13. I think this is why Christians (in general) have fought/do fight tooth and nail to decry evolution as a scientific fact - it destroys the original sin story of Adam and Eve. Those who do accept evolution (but still believe in Jesus being a sacrificial savior) then have to come up with a new narrative, such as original sin coming into being when human beings developed self-consciousness, but still, that eliminates the whole Satan as a fallen angel story too.
  14. PaulS

    Future of the site

    Too true 4BeanMix. This forum costs $540usd per year just to cover the hosting costs. However, I wouldn't want to discourage participation here or restrict access to the forum archives by requiring people to pay for use. A couple of members have generously contributed a month's or two fees and at the moment I simply encourage people who find value in participating here to consider donating by Paypal to 1paulsmedley@gmail.com (that's me). I'm still trying to work out ways to generate enough to cover costs here, and would welcome any other suggestions from anyone. Cheers Paul
  15. I didn't know until today that that unless you come from the Sakha Republic (Yakutia), mine will always be the biggest!
  16. Just thought I'd share this pic showing the size of my state (Western Australia) against Texas and some others. I had a bit of a giggle when it reminded me of my visit to Texas in 1990 when a taxi driver called us liars and tried to kick us out of his cab. He had been bragging about 'big' Texas (we soon came to learn it was a bit of a 'tourist' thing) and telling us it took half a day to drive the length of Texas. We told him it took nearly two whole days to drive the length of our State. He simply couldn't believe us.
  17. Yes, but he also said that in that state the person suffers the pain of the deprivation of God - eternally. He calls it eternal damnation and self-inflicted punishment. He blames the individual for it as he says they deserve it because they have freely and definitively separate themselves from God. It's just a softer version of the fire and brimstone version of hell. Maybe it helps them feel better about their loved ones suffering eternal damnation.
  18. Undoubtedly there are strains of Christianity that don't teach this (yay!) but I doubt it is the majority of the Christian religion. The largest denomination for instance, Catholicism, will preach how Jesus is the required salvation if one should wish to live in Heaven (the alternate not so much promoted but very much insinuated). Of course, that said, there are progressive Catholics too - they're just a minority. Anglicans are possibly more progressive with a slightly better acceptance of homosexuality for instance, but many of those branches still believe in Hell as a place of justice for
  19. So, in general (in the main), I don't think Christianity stops at just teaching children they are born with the capacity for cruelty, destruction etc, but worse, that this is their base nature as 'sinners', born into sin. They are not worthy of God unless they believe certain beliefs.
  20. Yeah, that seems pretty harmless. Unfortunately, I don't think that is the Christian position in the main. I would also teach children that the human capacity for destructive behavior, of which we are all capable, is just as fundamental as the human capacity to love. The former is not a default behavior that we are inherently ruled by.
  21. I tried to help my mother understand why I don't believe in Hell, with similar logic. But she couldn't process it. I told her that by her understanding she should expect me to go to Hell as I didn't believe Jesus died for my sins or that I needed to believe that. In fact, I said I would want to go to Hell simply to demonstrate solidarity with all those poor wretches that other Christians think deserve eternal torture! That being the case, how could she be happy for all eternity in Heaven, whilst knowing her son was suffering eternal torment. Luckily for her, I was baptized at 14 when I 'ch
  22. Maybe. Or maybe he's living his judgement of it. Maybe, but maybe he's not aligned with his dharma, and instead is farming!
  23. I've always loved that story and take a lot from it in regards to a philosophy about how to consider what happens in one's life, but even the farmer still takes action in his life - he farms. Presumably he views farming as beneficial in some regard or another, or why else farm? Why not sit around meditating, or hunting, or working in a factory? So similarly, I was asking how others view Christianity - having some benefit or not? For what it's worth - I agree with you - maybe it has been beneficial, maybe it hasn't. But I think more accurately it's a case of perhaps sometimes it is b
  24. We participate in life and we either consciously or subconsciously rank where we sit on the 'life satisfaction' scale. We all sit at different spots. A poor and destitute person may feel euphoric about life and a rich person may feel suicidal, but at the end of the day we all make judgments about our life experience, so this is what I see as simply as 'better or worse'. So, has Christianity contributed to better or worse for people's life experience, is what I am asking (but more on a wholesale scale, like entire cultures). I guess in a deterministic universe that doesn't make sense, b
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