glintofpewter Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Religious socialisation [behavior] encourages group cohesion, which might affect support for democracy. Religious beliefs trigger thoughts of traditionalism, security, conformity - which might act to reduce support for democracy. Clearly, religion and democracy are both complicated beasts, and so there is not going to be a straightforward relationship between the two! Religious belief and religious involvement have opposite effects on support for democracy Is this a contributing factor to polarization and a petition to deport Pers Morgan? Insistence on creedal beliefs? Dutch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NORM Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Is this a contributing factor to polarization and a petition to deport Pers Morgan? Insistence on creedal beliefs? Dutch, I can't tell from this article what it is you are asking. I am assuming that you mean Piers Morgan? Not sure I understand the reference, because I do not watch cable news programming. Is someone trying to get this person deported? Why? NORM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusktilldawn Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 The article talks about how the answers people give to opinion polls depend on what questions are asked first - something I think this clip illustrates nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glintofpewter Posted January 2, 2013 Author Share Posted January 2, 2013 Piers Morgan interviewed a gun rights advocate and called him an idiot I am told. This started a petition asking for his deportation because he was attacking the 2nd amt. 48000 last I saw. Supposedly it will be posted on whitehouse.gov and the president will have to speak in response. Dutch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neon Genesis Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 So they believe in the second amendment but not in the first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soma Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 It seems churches talk about many gods, duality, healing of the body, and personality. To persuade others to stay with their church they have to set up situations where they are right and others are wrong. My god is stronger, the true god. We are chosen so others are hell bound. We will heal your physical and mental problems so listen, believe and follow our orders. Selling is all about personality. Christianity sell with the personality of authority. I feel this is against Democracy and for Theocracy. I feel the solution is for people to recognize there is only one God who loves everyone, that there is duality in unity, and that religion is about awareness of the soul and not about authority and personalities that speak for that authority, but supernatural grace experienced individually by following the Divinity within and not externally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NORM Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Piers Morgan interviewed a gun rights advocate and called him an idiot I am told. This started a petition asking for his deportation because he was attacking the 2nd amt. 48000 last I saw. Supposedly it will be posted on whitehouse.gov and the president will have to speak in response. Dutch Seriously? That's funny. Now I know why I don't watch cable news. NORM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusktilldawn Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 The article doesn't specify what it means by democracy or support for democracy. It's often a rather vague concept. Is it the practice of voting for governments or a broader idea involving liberal values? We usually trace democracy back to classical Athens but an integral part of Athenian democracy was ostracism. Every year the citizenry would vote for someone to banish from the city. So perhaps the petition to deport Piers Morgan is a truly democratic event after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeW Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 The article doesn't specify what it means by democracy or support for democracy. It's often a rather vague concept. Is it the practice of voting for governments or a broader idea involving liberal values? I think that democracy means that the ultimate sovereignty rests with the people. The form it takes can vary greatly from society to society. George Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glintofpewter Posted January 4, 2013 Author Share Posted January 4, 2013 I think democracy might mean being willing to be in conversation and not having such a hard position that I am not willing to arrive solutions that don't match mine. That I accept institutions in place to redress injustices and initiate change and that I will respectfully and peacefully protest when I must. When it is common for left or right to have such intractable positions that a conversation which leads to a common vision is impossible then democracy is undermined. Dutch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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