From A Presbyterian Minister Here In Austin... (Re: Homosexuality)

[StephInTX]

http://www.jimrigby.org/ten-things-i-wish-the-church-knew-about-homosexuality/

 

 

[jonnyb]

thanks, a good read. i especially liked point 9: 'If we do not do the right thing in our day, our grandchildren will look at us with same embarrassment we look at racist grandparents.'

[StephInTX]

Yes, that point seemed most compelling to me as well. The question is how to get the message across to those who don't already agree....

[glintofpewter]

He speaks to some current arguments. Especially the irrational stuff Santorum said about California Supreme court's ruling on Proposition 8 which somehow violated freedom of religion. But it should read "the [adjective] Church. Not all the churches are the same.

 

2. You are not being persecuted when prevented from persecuting others.

[NORM]

Thanks for posting that, Steph.

 

Here is a copy of a sermon that changed my mind on the issue of homosexuality. It's rather long, but you won't be disappointed. Interestingly, from another Episcopalian.

 

http://stpaulsfay.or...ossinglines.pdf

 

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[Raven]

Norm,

 

Thanks for sharing that. I'm here with tears in my eyes. What a beautiful story, and a great explanation of another way to see the Bible's teachable moments.

[NORM]

Norm,

 

Thanks for sharing that. I'm here with tears in my eyes. What a beautiful story, and a great explanation of another way to see the Bible's teachable moments.

 

There was a very strange - and long - moment of silence after that sermon. I was in shock. Previously, I was of the opinion that homosexuality was a sin. I'm glad you find it inspirational. That sermon changed my life.

 

NORM

[Bea]

Thank you for sharing that Norm. I have saved it to pass on.

[JosephM]

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