jamesAMDG Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 It was half supposed to be a joke. I guess no one could see my smirk as I wrote it huh? When I make jokes like that, I tend to get my head bitten off, so I guess I was trying to dismantle it. Thanks for clarifying anyway! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I figure I"ll probably get my head bitten for something or other, might as well be a sarcastic joke now and again. haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
October's Autumn Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 There seems to be less rhetoric on the left simply because they/we are not a cohesive group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 I think there is enough rhetoric to go around. Rhetoric is an equal opportunity employer. :-) --des There seems to be less rhetoric on the left simply because they/we are not a cohesive group. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
October's Autumn Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 I think there is enough rhetoric to go around. Rhetoric is an equal opportunity employer. :-) --des There seems to be less rhetoric on the left simply because they/we are not a cohesive group. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Having been on both sides, I strongly disagree. At the very least conservatives are more vulnerable to the rhetoric because of an unwillingness to question authority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystictrek Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 To call taxation stealing is quite a stretch. I believe that everything belongs to God and we just borrow the goods for a while. Our infrastructure is deteriorating. We the people, through our representatives, have the right to tax, especially tax the wealthy, for the common good of all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 And Jesus would most certainly NOT advocate socialist ideas. He never advocated the state taking money from one person and giving it to another. This violates the 8th commandment, thou shalt not steal. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I respectfully disagree. I don't see that Jesus advocated any one form of economic system over another. It is clear that Christ DID advocate for JUSTICE in our societies regardless of the style of economic system in place in that society. I personally feel the most Just economic system - is a socialist system. To ensure that all people recieve equal levels of health care, equal protection from work place discrimination, and equal access to educational oppurtunities, it is my opinion that the government must heavily regulate these things - and directly provide many of these things. It is my experience that when left totally to the "private sector" the poor in our communities are served poorer than the rich are. I find that reality to be contradictory to the teachings of Christ. I also find that Jesus did instruct his followers to give of their wealth to the poor persons in their communities. To the second point - "He never advocated the state taking money from one person and giving it to another. This violates the 8th commandment, thou shalt not steal. " It seems to me - that the rich industrial leaders in our country have much money because they have abused our workers and the environment in order to get it. I consider that to be stealing. While their wealth may be lawfully theirs, I do not consider it to be justly theirs. It seems, from my perspective, that the owners, shareholders & managers of every company that fails to pay a living wage have gained their wealth by stealing it from the poor who worked in their industries for unfair wages and in unsafe conditions. So, to take money from the rich and use it to support programs that help the poor - such as public education and health care is to return that wealth to the people to whom it truly belongs, the workers of the world. It seems to me that to do otherwise would be stealing from the poor - a violation of the above cited commandment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherRog Posted September 27, 2005 Share Posted September 27, 2005 Here's a very interesting article written by a former Republican: http://thedoormagazine.com/archives/lastword-165.html Former Sodomite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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