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  1. 17 hours ago, thormas said:

    Pip, there is no devil..........there is only God in whom we have our being. We don't need a 'devil' to tempt us (or blame), we are surrounded by self-centeredness and, if we opt for it, we are blameworthy.

    There are not two powers, there is no such duality, there is only the One who is Alpha & Omega.

     

    I have no interest in end-time conspiracy theories or misinterpretations of the book of Revelation. 

    My friend you don't even not know your Bible. Because you just have makes your own believe that cannot prove nothing. The Devil or Satan love that people says that he not exist. And the Bible is clear about him. I know that you are an Atheist try to squeeze the Word of God. Read Genesis 2. Read Revelation 12:1-18. Ask questions if you don't no nothing about Christianity. 

  2. On 9/21/2020 at 6:24 AM, PaulS said:

    I doubt you can help me as it seems you don't understand them that well yourself (this might help you understand your misunderstanding of these quotes - https://evidenceforchristianity.org/what-is-the-correct-interpretation-of-isaiah-14r/).

    Like I said - the Devil isn't mentioned in the OT.  You are confusing what you have been taught by men with what is actually written in the scriptures.  Can you show me one OT reference that says "the Devil"?

    Attached is very informative article that might help you better understand how 'Satan' of the New Testament was developed contrary to what satan was in Judaism and the Hebrew Bible.

    Sweeney (1).pdf 73.56 kB · 0 downloads

    Maybe Revelation 12:1-17 can prove you what or who is the devil. You are searching for the name devil, read Revelation and you will see. The devil has existence before the World has created. 

  3. 6 hours ago, JosephM said:

    No man taught me that but it is okay with me if you want to remain in bondage to the covenant from Mount Sinai. Myself, i choose to be free.

    Check this in your Bible if it is from only the Old Testament. 

    Revelation 12:17 and Revelation 14:12

  4. On 9/15/2020 at 5:42 PM, JosephM said:

    2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

    Yes the world has passed away. But of course, perhaps not for some as yourself at this point in time. Jesus words were spirit and truth, not literal. 

    And as Paul said in Galatians Tell me, you that desire to be under the law, do you not hear the law? 22For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a female slave, the other by a free woman. 23But he who was of the female slave was born after the flesh; but he of the free woman was by promise. 24Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which engenders to bondage, which is Agar. 25For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answers to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. 26But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

    Sorry my friend, you don't understand the scriptures. You are just following men teaching. 

  5. On 9/15/2020 at 4:29 PM, thormas said:

    And that has been answered............simply not by you in a way that would be helpful to today's audience.

    I have no question for you since, as stated previously, you provide "no answers for 21st C people." 

     

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    As for the Holy Spirit: as a Christian I was not taught nor do I believe the Spirit is a 3rd separate being. Not sure what you are talking about or whose teaching your are referring to. 

     

    I don't know what you mean with 21st C people. 

    Show me where I can find that question. 

  6. On 9/15/2020 at 4:23 PM, thormas said:

    And let me teach you: the first 4 are summed up in the 1st great commandment and the remaining 6 are 'summed' up by the 2nd great commandment. And of course if one truly loves God then they love their neighbor and, conversely, if one truly loves their neighbor, then they love God. 

    No one has said or suggested the commandments don't 'stay till the end of the world' - however, in truth, all the commandments are to Love.

     

    Actually some of the commandments are stated in the negative, such as 'thou shalt not'............but the 2 great commandments put a positive spin on it: thou mayest Love.

     

    You're welcome.

     

    Do you love the Sabbath? Yes? Why don't you keep it? 

  7. On 9/12/2020 at 9:08 AM, thormas said:

    It is a new covenant with God that Jesus brings and the 10 are best understood as two and the two are one: Love. All else is mere commentary.

    The Commandments stay till the end of the world. Matthew 5:17-18. Does this world has PASSED away?

    Let me teach you. The first four commandments belongs to God. That is the FIRST. 

    The six other Commandments is for humans. That is the SECOND. 

    If you love God keep all the 10 Commandments. Including the forth commandment the Sabbath day of the LORD.

     

  8. On 9/12/2020 at 9:17 AM, thormas said:

    Pip, interestingly you never even try to answer questions. Seemingly, you have never considered the questions and thus have no answers for 21st C people.

    And I never said I don't believe in God, I simply reject your interpretations and its limited image of God. 

    God needs no invitation as he is always present and since childhood he has always been 'inside.' 

     

    You fight a losing battle Pip: I am reminded of the Pharisees and Scribes of old - the ones Jesus corrected.

    My friend, the question is, what is God power. 

    Answer: The Holy Spirit.  But the Holy Spirit is not a third separated being the way that they have teaches you. The Holy Spirit is Jesus Christ Himself in the true Christians. 

    What more question do you have?

  9. 14 hours ago, thormas said:

    That explains nothing to a 21st C audience. What do you mean by the Spirit, what do you mane by Power, how does such Power work and is there really any such Power in the face of the natural and manmade evil in the world? Have you even or ever considered the question of evil? Have you ever tried to explain 'how' God works in the world? 

     

    If you don't believe in God, how can you know better than a converted Christian? 

    If you want to know how God works, open your heart and invite Him to come inside of you and clean the mess in your mind.

  10. 3 hours ago, PaulS said:

    There is no challenge in using the bible to answer questions.  That's the easy bit.  The hard bit is actually understanding it correctly - in its context, in its time and with the author's intent and purposes understood.  Now that's the bit many, many Christians are yet to understand.

    Just like you my friend. Are you keeping the 10 Commandments?

  11. On 9/8/2020 at 12:57 AM, PaulS said:

    I did look at that website and I find it to be of no value whatsoever.  It misrepresents Jesus' teachings, pretends to know prophecy which in itself is confused about, is anonymous (clearly nobody wants to put their name to it) and is just simply what I would call 'sad'.  There is no fear on my part.  But I would encourage you to read some scholarly material about Jesus, Revelation and indeed the bible in general, if you are open to better understanding these things.

    You didn't read or pray before you have read it. And they have also an email address. Everybody that has do exactly what they say has seen the truth. Because all they say is exactly what the Bible says.

    I'm open of all understanding. Give me a question answer see if I cannot answer it BIBLICAL, and then I ask you a question and see that you can answered me BIBLICAL. 

  12. 19 hours ago, thormas said:

    Good find Paul, I like Pagels and have not read this one. Thanks!

    I never has take the book of Revelation literally completely. It is a literal and symbolic and prophetic book. 

    Why do you don't go to see in here? Don't be afraid. 

    end-times-prophecy.org 

  13. On 9/3/2020 at 8:06 AM, thormas said:

    Good try Pip but the first line about Covid-19 shows that the site and its founders simply buy into conspiracy nonsense - and the end-time bit is more of the same.

     

    Don't mix covid with christianity, the devil don't let you go and see, because he knows that you eyes shall open my friend. 

  14. On 9/4/2020 at 6:23 PM, thormas said:

    Well, some of us were having a more nuanced discussion. Plus your comment can still be summed up by the two great commandments or simply the one commandment of Love - which is, btw, the faith response of Jesus. 

    Which one is closer to God? Revelation 12:17 and 14:12, or the others?

    Remember, Jesus has spoken. 

  15. 19 hours ago, JosephM said:

    Perhaps you don't grasp  that  every day is the Sabbath day. Hebrews 4:1-10 . Don't fail to enter into his rest as some did in olden times.   Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.  For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. To live under the law is death. When a new will and testament is made the old is made void else confusion results. Are you living under the Old Testament? https://www.phildrysdale.com/2013/10/37-scriptures-that-prove-christians-are-not-under-the-law/

    Go here and learn something. end-times-prophecy.org 

  16. 20 hours ago, thormas said:

    If you are focused on others and thus God/Love...........that is grace. 

    You don't understand the scriptures very well my friend. Jesus was showing the pharisees what to do on Sabbath. 

    Look at this verses 

    Matthew 5:17-18

    Romans 8:4,7

    Revelation 12:17

    Revelation 14:12. 

    The Commandments are 10, not 8 or 9. So 10 including the Seventh day Sabbath, the Saturday. If you cannot keep them now, then you cannot keep them in the New World. Isaiah 66:22-23.

  17. On 8/23/2020 at 12:00 PM, Burl said:

    The essence of the Sabbath is to set aside one day to be grateful for all God does for us.  It is a day to turn the self off and focus on grace.

    Not only focus on grace. Don't do nothing that we regularly do. But talk about God and help others in their weakness. 

    REMEMBER! Keep my Sabbath Holy. Are you remembering!!

  18. On 8/24/2020 at 9:41 AM, Elen1107 said:

    Here are two verses from the Pauline letters about the Sabbath:, There might be more, I'm not sure.

     

    Colossians 2:16

    https://www.biblehub.com/colossians/2-16.htm

    Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.

    If you see here you must see to which persons Paul is talking to. Read it completely the story and you will find out the truth. 
     

    Romans 14:5

    https://www.biblehub.com/romans/14-5.htm

    In the same way, some think one day is more holy than another day, while others think every day is alike. You should each be fully convinced that whichever day you choose is acceptable.

    This part has nothing to do with the Sabbath. You have six days only for you to do whatever you want. It doesn't matter which in this six days you make it Holy than the other days. But the Seventh day Sabbath is made for the Lord thy God. Keep it Holy. If you do your things on that day, then the promise from God on that day, you cannot get it. Blessed and Sanctified.

    Do you have seen the truth. Revelation 12:17 and 14:12. Don't it means nothing to you my friend. Don't you know that the devil is after me because I keep God's Commandments and have the faith of Jesus? He doesn't need others that don't keep God's Commandments. Do you belong to God? Read Revelation 14:6-12.

     

  19. 11 hours ago, Elen1107 said:

    Would you say that to all our nurses and doctors and firefighters? 

    Those who risk their lives in order to save and protect the rest of us. Or would you just tell them, after all they give, that they are just going to hell?

    Better to do what Paul said, everyone can choose which day they want to dedicate to God and spirituality.

    You don't understand the scriptures. Jesus have says, what to do on Sabbath. Or what can we do on the Sabbath day. Read Revelation 12:17 and 14:12. Are you saying that Paul didn't keep the Sabbath day?

  20. On 8/13/2020 at 5:07 PM, Elen1107 said:

    You still haven't told me which version of the 10 Commandments you are referring to.

    Paul in one of his epistles/letters says that it doesn't matter which day people call God's day and make holy. What is important is that they devote that day to God.

     

    Jesus in many of his teachings enhanced the law and made them more perfect. For instance, the law says, "You shall not kill". Jesus does not negate this but goes on to say that one should not even get angry. The law says a man may divorce, Jesus says that people may only get divorced in extreme circumstances. There are many other examples of this.

    The first commandment in the law is to have no other god before the One God. Jesus says to love God with all your mind and all your heart. These things are similar, but they are not the same. Jesus makes the second most important commandment to love one's good neighbor as oneself. This is not part of the 10  commandments. Still, Jesus says that all of the law is summed up in these two commandments.

    How are people disobeying Jesus by doing and believing these things?

     

    The fourth Commandment, the seventh day Sabbath. Keep it Holy my friend 

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