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Time to throw AJ into all this.

Eusebius is the sole source for early church history except for Acts and a few lines of Josephus. The old GoogleDoc scan is painful to read. Paul Meier (sp?) has a great modern translation. That really should be on your bookshelf, or order it from a library.

Eusebius, chap. XXII. Also the source for Paul as the author of 1&2 Timothy. https://books.googleusercontent.com/books/content?req=AKW5QafR1vy99-HYr6cB_VqcvhrVzlm2O-1g37btvzVKL0XikhnmW5ez7E5jnyeXonhJKFRDKJuJ4k-taWE39X8_J2vZO2h4RU_5bt__0bT4juA8PY9ONDJ4vG4zdi4wUwwYOD2YInuK79HinMiGKVpdEPSoqvxntwfuncd5y6mbTXSLEviskoEMZA6tWQl-F637jHaMC1hD5uGD0DRFCwTNDQU7uALJqUnnTKRI2bCGG2QsLqlt6OY8iXGz-a3lutUHE5SC9sW00wGqoPu7zxGhnw-Hloh75AsP5Z2bY-U3BRD-LFrZM5w

Saul changed his name to Paul after his theophany. Saul was in cahoots with the Romans.

Yeah, maybe a bit harsh but what trails did he blaze? He seems negative to me; always doubting, nitpicking and fault-finding. Fill me in on the trail blazing bit, pardner.

Considering that Saul turned traitor to the Romans and became persecuted himself to the point of martyrdom it’s fair to say Paul’s belief that he experienced a theophany was authentic.

In the climax of Exodus 50:34 the glory of Adonai fills the tabernacle. The same Hebrew verbal phrase is used elsewhere as “fills a spear” to describe a warrior’s commission - like filling a job. I think a fair non-theistic reading would be accepting a missionary commitment.

Saint Paul is highly regarded because he was touched by God, and because he sacrificed his life and his career in order to evangelize the gentiles. Paul is the reason Christianity is the foundation of Western civilization. Spong is almost completely unknown, and he has had zero influence on Christian exegesis. He is just another privileged white male priest who had a couple radical ideas which failed to gain acceptance.

Paul is absolutely more of an authority than Spong.

Two things to keep in mind about Paul. First, he was in mission to the gentiles. Lots of different cultures and backgrounds. Second, rhetorical analysis is necessary. Lots of diatribe. He would explicate a single point with several examples. A bit like Ecclesiastes where single verses can be misdirecting.

My point was that preaching is a charism, not a job or a trade. I think they were not only progressive, but truly called by God. Their path may not fully resonate with me, but they were original and authentic. They are proof that God does call women to preach.

There are so many poor and disastrous preachers today that gender ratios are only metrics of hollow careerism. Better to look at the examples of women who preached Christ crucified and glorified so well that they left enduring and original legacies of faith. Elizabeth Ann Seaton, Katherine Drexel, Mary Baker Eddy, Mother Ann Lee, Ellen G. White, Aimee Semple McPhearson, Mary Dyer, Mother Theresa as examples. Paul said it best. Gal 3:28 - There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Paul used the word preachers? Control of men? Where and in what translation? This needs a close reading. As for today, there is no scarcity of women preachers, bishops and archbishops in mainline magisterial and congregational Protestant churches. I have not seen any female AME preachers, though. The independent churches are independent, so idk about them.

“Destroying America will be the culmination of my life’s work. I am going to bring down the United States by funding black hate groups. We will put them into a mental trap and make them blame white people. The black community is the easiest to manipulate.” ~ George Soros (interview with German Bild, September 2014)

This is part of a bill By Rep. Gomert demanding that the Democratic Party be cancelled. It’s more of an ironic dig at the Democratic support of Cancel Culture than serious legislation, but the facts are true.

That’s the point, Paul. There is no singular Black community yet a two white Democrats astroturfed the PAC BLM, Inc with money from a white billionaire and claim to represent all Black People. The money they raise goes to Biden; a rich white racist while doing nothing that helps Black lives.

The authorship does not seem relevant. Revelation is progressive, and one of the amazing things about the Bible is how the interpretation improves with time as truth is revealed. Now that we can read Paul with greater accuracy past misinterpretations are of historical interest.

Listen to the black community. They are fed up with white people patronizing them with what white Democrats think is best for Black people.

Not sure how much you aware of down there Paul but the Democratic party, who were the Confederacy and fought civil rights for blacks tooth and nail into the 60’s, are the white activists co-opting black concerns as they try to erase their racist roots. https://www.voltairenet.org/article210593.html

Christianity and Islam are very close relatives. I find Islam more concerned with not being incorrect and therefore more generalized but Christianity is always seeking greater specificity and begs forgiveness for its errors.

I pray to be given the eyes to see and the ears to hear. I also pray for mercy.

There are genuine reasons to criticize Trump, but Cancel Culture is not one of them. That is a purely anarchist phenomenon. https://www.jamesgmartin.center/2020/05/math-professor-mocks-a-leftist-belief-and-gets-fired/

Example please. Someone whose career has been destroyed because they did not line up with the Trimpeter’s virtue signaling. Preferably an academic.