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  1. Thanks for reply Paul. I have now ploughed through quite a few of bishop Spong's books and find I can relate to most of his ideas and thoughts on a reformed Christianity for our age. But I still have a problem understanding his view of Jesus as the pathway to his experience of God; I think most Christians if they had met the historical Jesus of 2000 years ago would find it very difficult to believe that this was the son of God with the holy spirit as his father and a virgin mother. Just amazing how people over the years will adopt a completely unrealistic view of this Jew who had studied nothing except the Torah and by our standards of today would be considered completely ignorant and with little to contribute to our understanding of the universe we inhabit. That also applies to other glorified religious figures of course like the illiterate Muhammad who claimed to receive a new revelation from the archangel Gabriel whenever required like when he wanted to marry a 9-year old girl. Just amazing how gullible we humans are! Cheers, Gunnar .
  2. While reading Richard Dawkin's book 'The God Delusion' i came across a reference to JS Spong's book 'A New Christianity for a New World' which I have now read and found most interesting. I have spent most of my life in Australia but was raised in a very strict fundamental pentecostal church in northern Sweden. From a young age I was told I was a sinner and needed to be saved and would spend hours on my knees praying to be saved and baptised in the holy spirit while other kids my age were outside playing games. Seems so weird now but when you grow up in a family where this is 'normal' I did not really question this until my teenage years when I did a complete turnaround and left all this behind (and also emigrated to Australia).Incredibly my siblings in this day and age still literally believe all the bible stories which I find totally amazing. One of my brothers has actually been quite a well known gospel singer in the US for nearly 50 years. JS Spongs book has really struck a chord with me and I find I can relate to his view of the bible, God and science. I don't have anyone I can talk to about these matters as nobody I know, including my partner, has the slightest interest in anything spiritual. All conversation has to be on a superficial, materialistic level and if somebody has a religion their faith is not to be questioned at all. I look forward to having a conversation with and exchange ideas with other members of this forum. Are there any other members living in Australia?
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