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ritch81

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  1. By agenda I refer to the fact that in Matthew 10:5 Wherein he tells his disciples to "Go nowhere among the Gentiles, enter no towns of the Samaritans but, go rather to the lost sheep of the House of Israel." It doesn't appear that he was too much interested in anything other then bringing the fallen away Jews back to the traditional ways. He sure wasn't seeking the Gentile vote. Referring back to Matt 10:23 he tells his disciples that "I have not come to bring peace but with a sword". So maybe he knew his agenda but didn't make it very clear to the disciples. (Me either)?? As to having a strong sense of who he was, again, Matt 10:23, "You will not have gone through all of the towns of Israel before the Son Of Man returns." Now that sounds to me like He was not aware of who he was if he was predicting his return before the disciples had time to finish their preaching. (The last I heard he was still missing). I have no doubt that he was brave, courageous, bold, moral and all that good stuff but let's not lose sight of the fact that he was a human being...a very persuasive human being, but still just another Joe...a pretty smart Joe. (There is a difference between smart and intelligent). What I'm trying to politely say is that I don't think I'd be inclined to buy a used car from him!
  2. As a rookie I'm going to jump in feet first.I think the first question to be answered in this day and age of supposed enlightenment is the whether the label "Christian or Christianity" has any real meaning. I myself struggled with whether I'd become an Atheist or Agnostic. The latter came closest; I settled on "Orthodox Skeptic"; which basically interprets to me knowing that there had to be somebody or something to push the start button. Now what label you want to put on him is up to you. One thing is for certain...He ain't some kindly old, white bearded grandpa sitting on a marble throne listening 24/7 to choirs of angels singing his praises. Christianity derives from Christ who was head and shoulders above any of the Elmer Gantry TV evangelists when it came to selling his program. But since we are now aware of the fact that we really don't know who he was or what his true agenda was, why do some many want to go right on crediting him with being all those things in the boy scout oath...you know...brave, clean, reverent, etc? We know that Christ was a man who put his pants on one leg at a time...like me an' you...so? The first 5 posts moved here by JosephM(as Moderator} as inappropriate for the Progressive Christianity section that requires only those who identify as PC and asks the question posed which was "Just What is Progressive Christianity to you" and is not for debate..
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