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    Very much involved with Unity of Melbourne as Prayer Chaplaincy Leader, Webmaster and AV Department. Also a member of the Whitehorse Interfaith Network and involved with Nunawading University of the Third Age where I am learning Latin, am a member of the choir and teach Ballroom Dancing.
  1. Charles Sennott has written, "There are many other views on Jesus. Some scholars believe he was not a peasant at all but of a more comfortable class of artisans, and that he was most likely a learned rabbinical leader." On the other hand, the prophet Mohammed was reportedly illiterate yet seems to have been well versed in Jewish and Christian teachings even before the flight to Medina. Lex parsimoniae perhaps, but there are many possibilities. I think that we know very little of the life of Jesus, and can know very little. The possibilities are, for me, exciting to explore. —Jim
  2. Also of possible relevance in this discussion is the entry into Idia by Alexander the Great (see the description of the following video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StxBeOqbBFc and the Wikipedia article) suggesting to me the possibility of the Greeks embracing at least some concepts from India. —Jim
  3. Maybe so, Jenell, but may I let my imagination run wild. Gunaketu was a Buddhist monk who had been studying Greek though at the library in Alexandria. He planned his return to the east to coincide with a caravan that would provide a measure of safety in numbers on the treacherous journey home. The caravan stopped in Galilee to purchase smoked fish to add to their provisions for a long trip. A young boy, the son of a local carpenter, had a thirst for knowledge and was immediately attracted to this stranger who had so many stories to tell … Possible? Maybe as possible as some of the tale
  4. I don't know classical literature well enough to answer that, but surely if there was trade then there would have been conversation. If there was conversation surely there would have been debate relating to ideas and values. Some of this would surely have seepd through to the uneducated and poorer people over a period of a century or two just as happens today. Look at how relativity theory and quantum theoretic ideas fall off people's lips today even if often without full understanding.
  5. I was about 10 or 11 when I performed my first "miracle". My cousins wanted to play ghosts, but there was too much light. I sat them down in the lounge and took out my Book of Common Prayer, read the collects and lessons etc to them then prayed for lightening and thunder, but no rain. A few minutes later: guess what! My aunt, my mother, my cousins and sister still talk about it to this day. At 12 I stopped going to church. I had become bored with the formal structure of the Anglican liturgy (although I now find it beautiful) which I could read for myself and began to view my relationship
  6. I've just done a tiny bit of research via Google. According to an article on the PBS web site, trade between India and the mediteranean commenced c. 200-100 BCE, so clearly Indian thought would have been known in Rome and Greece. Hindu and Buddhist concepts are likely to have been available throughout the Roman/Hellenic world and, I would speculate, may have influenced current thinking throughout the empire. No need to posit a direct meeting of Jesus with a Buddhist monk. —Jim
  7. I guess you will have read Bishop Spong's Resurrection: Myth or Reality? He covers the Last Supper in Chaoer 16. I imagine discussing the reading from John as midrash on Zecchariah then relating it to current issues could make an interesting homily. These days many feel btrayed by politicians, bankers and business people. How have we aided and abetted this betrayal? Why? Does this help or hinder? Best wishes for Holy Wednesday. —Jim
  8. I have just read an interesting sentence (in How to Read the Qur'an by Carl W. Ernst): Interesting point to ponder! Within my own local community it is often said that mainstream Christianity is a religion about Jesus as opposed to the religion that Jesus taught. Of course, we know little of what Jesus actually taught (refer to the publications of the Jesus Seminar) and even less of what he did, so is even this position valid? There are more questions than answers, so there is much to contemplate. I call myself Christian and an ahteist at once because: I endeavour to model my life on
  9. There have been claims that Jesus met travelling Bhuddist monks during the years before his public teaching. To me this seems unlikely, although maybe not impossible (?). If this were the case, why don't we see more traces of Bhuddism in the middle east and in pre-Islamic Arabia? I find the analysis of Bishop Spong more likely when he suggests we can best understand Jesus as a Galilean Jew and the gospels as a midrash on Jewish scripture. It is very tempting to see Asian philosophy in the sayings attributed to Jesus, but perhaps they all share a common source in the Philosophia Perrenis.
  10. Thank you Jenell. It does seem to me that many Americans have an irrational fear of anything smelling of socialism - a consequence, perhaps of the cold war? Throwing out the socialist baby with the communist bathwater? It leaves an impression, in the minds of some of us at least, of a country lacking in compassion even though this is probably not true of the majority of Americans. There is a person of Australian origin in your country spreading viscious rumours through his control of the media and it is the rich minority who benefit from the lack of an effective medical welfare system.
  11. Simple? Not all theists believe in the physical resurrection. But that is getting away from my intended point. An atheist is a person who does not believe in the existence of a physical god out there somewhere. An anti-theist sounds like someone who stands against a principle. Even if there did exist a theos and could be proven to exist, an anti-theist - by definition - would oppose him/her. I joined an anit-war group to protest the entry of my country into Iraq. When the protest failed, I attempted to enrol the members of the group in undertaking a project to relieve the suffering that wo
  12. We do hear down under that the American Taliban clain Obama is a closet Muslim - a long way from being anti-religious. On the subject ofmedicine: in Austrlaia we do have trouble understanding why it is such an issue in the USA. Can someone explain it to me?
  13. Should not an honest-to-god right wing fundamentalist just admit that the outcome of the election was predetermined during the seven days of creation and stop struggling right now?
  14. I agree with many of the previous comments. It is interestingthat you mention "antitheists" as well as "new atheists". Any person who describes themselves as anti-anything is likely to prove hard to reason with. I would tend to let it all drop there. It might be worth noting that many religious people, including some who regard themselves as Christian, are atheists, so one point of discussion is whether the person is anti-theist or anti-religious. —Jim
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