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  1. I am a Friend of Jesus. "I have called you friends, because I have made known to you everything that I have heard from my Father" (John 15:14). 1. A Friend of Jesus affirms that the central and sole essential teaching of Jesus is the Law of Love – Love of God and Love of neighbor. The Holy Spirit helps us live out the Way of the Cross - to die to our Old Selves (egos) to be born again as a new creation through Christ. (Matthew 22:35-40, Mark 12:28-34, Luke 10:25-28, John 13:34). 2. Having the "correct beliefs" is not necessary for "salvation". We experience and bring heaven into our
  2. The essential spiritual teachings of such luminaries as Jesus, the Buddha, Krishna, etc. have the same transformational core couched into language and terms that were appropriate for their time and culture. We can enter the gate of true spirituality through any one of these teachers. The essence of the Good News of the Gospel as taught by Jesus is very simple and can be understood by even a child. The purpose of life is to have good and fulfilling relationships with other people and the larger community of life. Real "salvation" is found in the practice of certain principles Jesus ta
  3. 1. OKay - I can see your point about the 10 Commandments so I may do a creative edit. 2. While you may find salvation to be a loaded term, one of my goals is to communicate with some of the more moderate believers and even questioning former conservative believers so I do not want to toss all language of relevance to them (instead I'll redefine the terms gently). 3. I agree with #3 completely but do not feel that a short 7 point intro is the place to discuss how scriptural canons were developed by human committees with political concerns and intrigues behind them. The Bible is important only
  4. OK - based upon some of the feedback, I reedited this little essay to make it even clearer. This is my own personal theology that I have written out for myself. I just thought I would share for any constructive feedback or to see if it speaks to anyone else. I am a Friend of Jesus. "I have called you friends, because I have made known to you everything that I have heard from my Father" (John 15:14). 1. A Friend of Jesus affirms that the central and sole essential teaching of Jesus is the Law of Love – Love of God and Love of neighbor. The Holy Spirit helps us live out the Wa
  5. Sorry, I've been away from the board for a couple of months. To your question about divorce from an abusive husband, my answer is - OF COURSE! The Bible is a human creation for one and may not accurately reflect what Jesus taught. Also, if something taught even by Jesus is not consistent with the Law of Love, then it must be rejected. Friends of Jesus affirm that the central and sole essential teaching of Jesus is the Law of Love – Love of God and Love of neighbor.
  6. This is a personal theology that I have written out for myself as a progressive Christian Quaker universalist (and isn't that a mouthful?). I just thought I would share for any constructive feedback or to see if it speaks to anyone else. We are the Friends of Jesus. "I have called you friends, because I have made known to you everything that I have heard from my Father" (John 15:14). 1. Friends of Jesus affirm that the central and sole essential teaching of Jesus is the Law of Love – Love of God and Love of neighbor. The Holy Spirit helps us live out the Way of the Cross - to die to
  7. I'm very open to nontheistic interpretations and applications of Jesuism, otherwise known as Christian atheism. (I often use the term "God" in more metaphorical sense to represent the interdependent web of all existence or ground of being, rather than a anthropomorphized supernatural creator entity anyways.) Jesuism (Jesusism or Jesuanism) is the personal philosophy encompassing the moral teachings of Jesus of Nazareth and commitment or adherence to those teachings. Jesuism is distinct from and sometimes opposed to mainstream Christianity. In particular, the term is often contrasted with t
  8. What is the Essence of the Way of Jesus? The essence of the Good News of the Gospel as taught by Jesus is very simple and can be understood by even a child. (Note - I really don't worry too much about the historical nature of Jesus just like I do not worry if Krishna was not a historical person - for me, the primary question is: "Are his teachings transformational?"). My focus is on following Jesus as Lord which means following the radical grace of his Great Commandment - "Love God and Love one another" rather than Pharisee-style legalism. In one of the most defining moments of his
  9. What is the Essence of the Way of Jesus? deleted... this is a duplicate post of the one found here. and should not be placed in multiple areas JM as moderator 6-25-2011
  10. I think that both the teachings of Gautama Shakyamuni, the historical Buddha (the Enlightened One), as well as the original teachings of Jesus, the Christ (Anointed One), focused on compassion and overcoming egocentrism and parallel each other quite well. Their teachings became overlaid with the cultural and historical manipulations of sociopolitical institutions in their respective cultures to evolve into the organized "religions" that we see today. I always saw Jesus as a mystic much like Gautama. It certainly explains the 40 Days in the Wilderness as well as some of his nondualistic sta
  11. Hmmm --- it seems that we are moving in similar directions although you are probably a little more "formal" in your approach. Basically I live in an area with only one progressive spiritual resource - a UCC church which is open to progressive theology but has a very traditional style of worship and music and a small, mostly older congrehation. They do offer Sunday School for the children and offer 2 weeks of a "VBS" style program in the summer (August). Let me quote from my other post on what I am trying to work on in my area. I'm thinking of a lay-led family ministry midweek evening
  12. I thought this discussion may be a good place to bring this up. The problem I see for the "spiritual but not religious" crowd is that typically the most progressive churches have the most traditional forms of worship and music - and often lack activities for kids and families as the congregation is often older. Quite frankly, many of us under 60 do not find these traditional forms of worship and music to be interesting, compelling, or attractive (certainly my wife does not). So I thought I would share my ideas to get feedback on a family group (us younger folks under 60 with kids at home)
  13. I thought I would share my ideas to get feedback on a family group (us younger folks under 60 with kids at home) to supplement what we get from the local UCC congregation on Sundays, and may be something also attractive to those who are not into "church services" or being "religious". The local UCC church is progressive but the congregation is primarily older and they are stuck in very traditional worship service patterns (and not likely to change given the board composition). At the same time they are the only progressive resource in the area so I would not want to "compete" with them. The po
  14. Oh, I quite agree. I'm hoping that this is the approach (focusing on what Jesus is recorded saying in the four Synoptic Gospels) that they are using with the development of the TCPC children's curriculum. You are quite right that to discuss the Golden Rule and Great Commandment (implemented through the Rule of Love), one must clarify as to whom is our "neighbor" (Good Samaritan parable) - and a life lived in this way would look like the Sermon on the Mount. (Wouldn't this be what is really meant by following Jesus as "Lord"?) ;-) This is the same approach that I think that TCPC and progres
  15. Ah, yes, you mean the parable of the Good Samaritan? We do seem to ignore what Jesus actually taught versus the contradictory messages taught by institutional Christianity - such as the doctrine of eternal damnation vs Jesus' parables about the Prodigal Son, the Lost Sheep, and the Lost Coin (plus referring to God as "Abba" and his definition of how many times we should forgive - which would hold people to a higher standard than God if one upheld the doctrine of eternal damnation). For me, all of these things interrelate.
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