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  1. I didn't mean to start a totally new topic on The Technician's welcoming post-thread. I got the capital 'T's mixed up and thought I was writing to The Technician instead of Thormas, and that The Technician was opening up his welcoming post-thread to this/these ideas. Sorry about that.
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  2. Good question. Probably because we don’t have much else in common.
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  3. To me, PC means a wide range of things to a wide range of people. Lately I've been thinking of myself as a pre-Constantinian Christian, (as well as a pre-canonization Christian). Just trying to get, or "tune into" the Spirits of JC, God/Higher Power/Great Spirit etc. , and what's called the Holy Spirit. Even according to the New Testament, that's what the first generations of Christians were doing. . . They didn't have a/the book.
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  4. PC is to me a path to faith where I get to hold on to the all inclusive values taught by my hippie parents while exploring God's love through humanity. Ours is not to judge or condemn. Ours is to explore and love. Many "legacy" systems of Christianity appose the message much of the Bible is trying to convey. PC is a way to merge faith with modern science, sociology and life experience. I think it is not what you believe, who to or where you pray, just that you have faith and a moral compass. I want to do good things and be a better person, so I take those lessons and apply them to my life in a
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  5. I have a pretty good theological library...but I haven't added anything significant to it for about a decade. Yeah, "slacker". That' me. Bottom line: I used to be current. Now I am not. So what's good that's new? And by "new" I mean within the last 5 years or so.
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  6. Hi all. I joined the Christian forums (https://www.christianforums.com) around the same time as joining here. I was curious to know if anyone here is or was a member there, and if so, what were your thoughts ? There are two things I'd like to say, one minor, and one major : 1. The minor point is that I was banned from the site today. I was banned outright, without any warnings. I know the last thing I posted was somewhat OTT (although factually correct), and was in all likelihood the reason I got the boot. Apart from the lack of notification, I am not concerned about the ban, as I wa
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  7. I'm amazed to see how this evolution deception is spreading throughout the churches today. Man in his quest to gain worldly knowledge is casting away the plain truth of God's Word and "thus saith the Lord" in favor of worldly wisdom. End times prophecy reveals we are living in the last days, so I suppose this kind of thing can be expected, as the Bible says: 2 Timothy 4:3. And what is sound doctrine?.... Hebrews 4:3. Genesis 2:1-2. Exodus 20:11 We get two clear truths from the above verses. 1. If you believe in evolution, then you have to believe that this world CONTINUES to ev
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  8. Just want to know more ..
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  9. I truly get this stuff is not easy to express. I express it as living the Kingdom rather than 'in the Kingdom or entering the Kingdom.' Plus I express it as the Kingdom is being established by the response of men and women to God (the embodiment Love). You make sense.
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  10. PaulS, I have read through a few of the posts on this thread and feel I get the gist of where this is going. I generally support your explanations on this topic. I have come from a prior fundamentalist view of the Bible and can be sympathetic with the positioning of others on this thread, however, I have discovered that spiritual freedom, for me, demands that I enter into an honest discussion with reality. For me, God no longer has to conform to dogma, even that which men have derived from a self-designated "Holy Book", and the Divine has been set free from the constricting box of dogmatic
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  11. Cuomo has done a great job and I love how strong and passionate he is. I agree: brilliant! I also love how he calls the trumpster on his bull.
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  13. Forgiveness is the only way to rid yourself of resentment. It does nothing for the other, but everything for the self.
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  14. Time to throw AJ into all this.
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  15. Actually he probably never heard of the above verses - he just wings it based on what is best for 'donald' and lets the chips and the people fall where they may.
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  16. Good one and if 'he' loses and refuses to leave, he'll be shown the door ..........
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  17. Hi everyone. I was born Catholic, and attended church most Sundays until I turned 18 and started university. That was more than 30 years ago, and in that time, I have not been anywhere near a church, or any other place of religious worship, save for the odd wedding, and increasingly now, the odd funeral. I do not consider myself a practicing Christian per se, but I am interested in the more progressive side of Christianity. I am a "fan" of Matthew Fox and Robin Meyers - each of these men take you to different places and have introduced me to different people. It’s still very early da
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  18. Hi, I am new here so I guess I should do the intro! Basically and briefly: grew up in Evangelical household, father was pastor. Rejected it all and went on a journey to find myself/Truth/God/Whatever - went through many things - Gurdjieff, Islam, magic and assorted other things. I learnt a lot and, believe it or not, grew a lot through it all but none of it brought me closer to God. I never felt I was lost or sinning or anything, just not closer. I was always opposed to literalist Christianity (but not Jesus) though I was never an atheist, I saw myself mostly as Muslim I suppose in an
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  19. Hello everyone, I am a thirty-something kindergarten teacher from Germany who has always struggled with faith and has always had a complicated relationship with her own faith. I have always been curious and open about Christianity, but ever since I was a teenager I have been bumping into walls. This has really stalled my growth as a person and even hurt it. For the longest time I thought something was wrong with me and my character and my beliefs. Everybody else seemed to have a completely opposite idea of what Christianity was, and we could only find common ground when it came to J
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  20. ...starting a new journey and the circumstances of COVID make some aspects of interaction now difficult, so I thought to try to develop my network to include some online resources to give external focus and connections. I subscribe to Liberal Theology more of the early 1900s to a large degree, with some modifications, and find the irony of how the dominant theology of the early 1900s is so relevant to our problems of today. Anyway, greetings... VR
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  22. Welcome to this group. It looks like it will be interesting to hear many of your ideas and insights. Welcome
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  23. I would personally like to progress toward a more inclusive behavior towards others, and would like for Christians in general to do the same. But I can only change myself, so there goes.
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  24. I can't help thinking when people talk about god, they are somehow confounding the concept of god with the universe. I am not denying people's claims regarding the experience of god (or God). But we are definitely made up of stardust and in this sense we are connected to the universe. It would appear our mathematical descriptions of the fundamental forces suggest they extend to infinity. Quantum theories suggest that the probability of events happening are determined by the state of the universe. I think Carl Sagan's words We are a way for the cosmos to know itself … are quite telling (I
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  25. Seemingly the existence of God cannot be proven or disproved because it is not an item or a thing in the world or the universe. God is the very possibility (and sustaining) of all that is.
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  26. I myself don't think there is that much of a problem when someone criticizes one part or another of a religion. It helps if this is constructive criticism instead of just saying it's all dumb or is really just picking on others because they think differently or because the picker needs someone to pick on because they themselves are afraid of getting picked on. Constructive criticism often comes from those people who really care, either about society at large and or for individuals who are involved in ideas that could hurt them psychologically. Hell seems to be one of these ideas. I t
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  27. I agree with a lot of what you've said here. It's when we get into including ideas that are un-inclusive in order to be inclusive that one gets into a kind of mind bender or mental knot. I myself don't know quite how to deal with it at this point. Maybe I, or we, will figure things out better as we go along and study or investigate the situations and questions. Thanks
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  28. I am new to faith. I do not profess to be of one denomination or another, infact I have not even decided on a fellowship at this point. I have made some poor choices in life as I am sure we all have. I also have had some trying times over the last few years. Finally after many struggles I started praying, reading and putting my faith in God. My life has changed for the better since I embraced faith but I am still having a hard time with many of the "Christian" values. I was not raised in the church and my folks have always been all inclusive, gay, straight, black, white and what have you. I am
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  29. Asking questions would be politely asking for clarification or explication with the objective of gaining a deeper understanding. Calling someone’s religious beliefs nonsense is dismissive. So is being argumentative. Rom, this is a spiritual forum not a scientific one. We are not on a fact finding mission. We are trying to maintain a sense of wonder, inquisitiveness, and attune our perceptions to revelation and enlightenment.
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  30. No. People are welcome to hold cynical and bigoted opinions against Christianity but this is not the place for attacks on other people’s faith beliefs. There is a huge difference between sharing one’s spiritual path and cynically vandalizing the spiritual path of others.
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  31. I myself don't know. She is French Catholic, with a heritage in the Catholic tradition that goes back something like 1,500 years. She used to be a very close neighbor of mine, we lived in the same building. She herself was living at or below the poverty line, and sharing a one bedroom apartment with her daughter, who was working fulltime, and her daughters two teenage sons, (who ate, and needed to eat, a lot). Still she kept giving and giving and giving. It was unreal how much she'd give when she, and her own, actually had so little. Today, she is living in her own house on her own land,
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  32. Ehrman is also a good guy in person. Definitely a bit quirky, a bit of a nerd (which I consider a compliment) and even a bit shy (odd as that might be to say) with little jokes that sometimes fall flat accompanied by his own little laugh at them. He is a great teacher/presenter, takes pains to be understood and genuinely cares about those in need (everything from his blog goes to his charities). I agree that his work (and the works of others) has been enlightening and enhancing for many people.
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  33. True but at times, hearing or reading the words of another (or interacting with another) can be a pleasant surprise or unsettling or even be experienced as a judgement (a mirror thrown up in front of you and you see yourself in a new light). So there is our own thinking but something can be introduced that gives us pause and adds or affect our thinking. I agree, we are taking or should be taking responsibility (and using our own thinking) to consider the new idea.
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  34. I agree and I like this idea. It is simply respect for the other as a person, as a human being, as a Child of God/Spirit.
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  35. I think this is a great insight: sometimes such judgement is essential in the case of not only child abuse as you have shown but, for example, with bullying. We might not know why one abuses a child or why one is a bully - but we can definitely say, "No!" such actions are wrong.
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  36. I am not alone but I am alone in my faith. No one in my family shares my views or beliefs and I get shuffled aside often. It's ok because my faith is mine. As for guilt, that is the whole reason I started down this path, I had to find a way to forgive myself for my past and asking for God's forgiveness seemed like the first logical step. Once I realized that all things are in God's way and in God's time my life got a whole lot easier. I realize God has always been there waiting and all I had to do was realize there was a different way than what I was currently living. God only gives you as muc
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  37. God bless you, Piriripi. I admire your faith and I am glad to know you. I post on a phone so I rarely write long missives or cover more than a single point so feel free to follow up. The two different stories of Adam and Eve in Genesis are interesting to me for contemporary and non-historical reasons. The biggest is why did God create Adam? God has already created angels and other elohim, but he then creates an entirely different being out of physical clay. This baffles me, and it is the single most important question posed by the creation of mankind. Why are we here?
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  38. Reminds me of Campbell: Moyers Like all heroes, the Buddha does not show you the truth itself, he shows you the way to the truth. Campbell But it’s got to be your way, not his
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  39. There are about five active people left. We don’t even need more than one section. This board could easily be a group email. The last thing we need is bullying people through petty rules and ‘organization’.
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  40. Nothing needs to be overcome. Everyone is entitled to their own faith. Slandering someone’s beliefs as ‘false premises’ is wholly negative and an intellectually adoption of a supremacist attitude. You can preach what you do believe is true without intellectually bullying others.
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  42. PC really has no positions, knowledge or insight to offer. It is only a strictly bounded discussion space. The need to strictly enforce the 8 judgmental boundaries and shun those who do not conform is evidence of a hypocritical intolerance.
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  43. Thormas my brother, we are a family. We are the body and Jesus is the head. I need you, you need me. That is real progressive Christians. I have to go read the rules better again. My English is very bad. I tired to defend myself.
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  44. Hi I'm new here and I hope that I'm home here. Thanks.
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  45. In August 2016 … we (my wife and I) had fortieth wedding anniversary. There were forty or so people outside for a barbeque. I must admit I was well oiled. I was sitting next to Ann (Madeleine's Buddhistically inclined octogenarian guru). She's a really nice lady. Joseph would get on well with her. She was talking to two ladies, I did not know well, and explaining to them how they need the ability to be able to forgive themselves. I think the ladies were of a Christian persuasion. Anyway the conversation died down, and I knew Ann also did not believe in free will. So I quietly said to her
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  46. No, Rom............you miss his point :+}
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