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Homosexuality is not a sin!

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I know this claim will start alot of controversy so its up for discussion. After studying the Bible, i realized the Bible does not condemn all forms of homosexuality. The Bible condemns homosexuality that’s based on exploitation, lust, and idolatry. Here’s the proof.

Leviticus 18:22 does not condemn all homosexuality - Many English translations make it seem like Leviticus 18:22 condemns homosexuality. However, this is a mistranslation of the original Hebrew text. In Hebrew, it says "we et zakar lo tishkav mishkeveh Ishah Towebah hi." In English, it literally reads "and with a male, you shall not lie with in the beds of a woman. It is an abomination." What do beds of women have to do with homosexuality? People in ancient times engaged in what’s called “shrine prostitution.” Men and women had different beds. Men would have homosexual sex on the beds of women in worship of their gods. Towebah is used in the sense of ritual uncleanliness rather than immorality.

Romans 1:18–27 condemns homosexual shrine prostitution - Romans 1:18–27 “18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness,19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened.22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.

24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts,to dishonor their bodies among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.”

People read this and assume the Apostle Paul was talking about all homosexuality. Not true and it becomes clear when you study ancient history.

In ancient Rome, older men would have sex with young boys as they taught them how to be Roman citizens. Shrine prostitution was also being addressed. Members of the Cult of Cybele for example would worship Cybele, mother of gods by engaging in ecstatic and frenzied dancing. Things would get out of control when worshipers got drunk and did drugs up the anus rather than the mouth. This was to give a more powerful effect. Priests dressed as women and had orgies with other members. They castrated and whipped themselves until they bled. Some sacrificed a bull then bathed in it's blood. The Roman gov. officials were so horrified by this behavior (i was horrified too when i learned about it), they outlawed it and had cult members tortured or killed if they practiced it.

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8 hours ago, Isaiah90 said:

I know this claim will start alot of controversy so its up for discussion. After studying the Bible, i realized the Bible does not condemn all forms of homosexuality. The Bible condemns homosexuality that’s based on exploitation, lust, and idolatry. Here’s the proof.

It is the case that the exploitation of any human being, regardless of orientation is wrong or, in religious terms, sin. It is also the case that if one actually worships another human being, rather than God, at least from a religious perspective, that is sin (some without a religious persuasion might consider it wrong). Of course, if we say of a man that he 'worships' his wife, that is not in the same category and is judged to be a good thing and she a happy woman (and vice versa). As for lust, on the surface that seems essential to a healthy love relationship. Although, if we want to get technical, to lust suggests that one 'desires' the other for oneself and not for (the sake of) the other - lust in this case would be judged by many to be wrong and for the religious person, sin.

I have not done a study of the bible on homosexuality, so I trust, as you say, that it does not condemn homosexual. However it it did, I would have to say this particular 'insight' was wrong. 

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Isaiah, you asking a weak question and answering it with supposition instead of enlightenment.

The bigger question is how and why does sexual ideation and behavior influence one’s spiritual condition.  This is universal in all religious traditions.

 

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Isaiah … for me you will have show that sin actually exists in some form beyond our personal and textual perceptions.

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17 hours ago, Isaiah90 said:

 

Isaiah,

I like Burl's bigger question but you or any of us can ask any question, large or small, and others will or will not engage.

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It seems to me, that if one esteems or believes in his/her heart that something (such as an act) is a sin and then engages in it, to him it is most definitely a sin. That act includes homosexuallity regardless of the words found in ones  religious book or guide.

Joseph

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Commentary on the true question.

Diana Khoi Nguyen, “Vow.” 
 

It will be windy for a while until it isn’t. The waves will shoal.


A red-legged cormorant will trace her double along glassy water, forgetting they are hungry.


The sea will play this motif over and over, but there will be no preparing for it otherwise.

Water will quiver in driftwood. Sound preceding absence, a white dog trailing a smaller one: ghost and noon shadow, two motes disappearing into surf.
 

And when the low tide comes lapping and clear, the curled fronds of seaweed will furl and splay, their algal sisters brushing strands against sands where littleneck clams feed underwater.
 

Light rain will fall and one cannot help but lean into the uncertainty of the sea.

Bow: a knot of two loops, two loose ends, our bodies on either side of this shore where we
will dip our hands to feel what can’t be seen.
 

Horseshoe crabs whose blue blood rich in copper will reach for cover, hinged between clouds and sea.
 

It will never be enough, the bull kelp like a whip coiling in tender hands, hands who know to take or be taken, but take nothing with them: I will marry you.

I will marry you. So we can owe what we own to every beautiful thing.

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