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I consider myself a "progressive Christian".   I am an Evangelical Lutheran and I support the full inclusion of gays in the life of the Church, and I also do not believe being politically "pro-life" is a litmus test for Christian discipleship (in this respect, I'm very much in line with my denomination's own social statements).  But beyond that, I am very much a traditional, creedal sort of Christian, as are most Lutherans I know. 

So in one sense, I do see myself as a progressive Christian relative to American evangelicalism with its moralism, biblicism, and politicization of religion, but on the other hand, I am not a progressive Christian by the standards of this site- of espousing theological liberalism.  Yet I think there are far more folks like me out there in churches than there are Christians who are essentially wedded to theological liberalism.

So what really is "progressive Christianity"?

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6 hours ago, FireDragon76 said:

I consider myself a "progressive Christian".   I am an Evangelical Lutheran and I support the full inclusion of gays in the life of the Church, and I also do not believe being politically "pro-life" is a litmus test for Christian discipleship (in this respect, I'm very much in line with my denomination's own social statements).  But beyond that, I am very much a traditional, creedal sort of Christian, as are most Lutherans I know. 

So in one sense, I do see myself as a progressive Christian relative to American evangelicalism with its moralism, biblicism, and politicization of religion, but on the other hand, I am not a progressive Christian by the standards of this site- of espousing theological liberalism.  Yet I think there are far more folks like me out there in churches than there are Christians who are essentially wedded to theological liberalism.

So what really is "progressive Christianity"?

Good to see you back!  In my mind the only way the term 'progressive' Chistianity works is in the sense of progressive revelation.  Dispensationists were kinda right, but too linear and concrete/comprehensive in their progressivism.

Romans 1 makes a major theological point in that we are expected to discern the will of God by observing natural law, and the widest observation I can make is that God moves everything in the direction of increasing variety and complexity. 

I think progressive revelation is the keystone to progressive Christianity.  The PC organization can be better described as isogetical, and a case of self-will run riot.

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10 hours ago, FireDragon76 said:

I consider myself a "progressive Christian".   I am an Evangelical Lutheran and I support the full inclusion of gays in the life of the Church, and I also do not believe being politically "pro-life" is a litmus test for Christian discipleship (in this respect, I'm very much in line with my denomination's own social statements).  But beyond that, I am very much a traditional, creedal sort of Christian, as are most Lutherans I know. 

So in one sense, I do see myself as a progressive Christian relative to American evangelicalism with its moralism, biblicism, and politicization of religion, but on the other hand, I am not a progressive Christian by the standards of this site- of espousing theological liberalism.  Yet I think there are far more folks like me out there in churches than there are Christians who are essentially wedded to theological liberalism.

So what really is "progressive Christianity"?

Examples of theological liberalism?

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22 hours ago, FireDragon76 said:

So what really is "progressive Christianity"?

I regard progressive Christianity as a broad brush applied to people who no longer find doctrinal 'absolutes' as speaking truth in our modern world.  Christianity is changing as it always has, and as we move into a new age many Christians question 'traditional' teachings and weigh them up against other experiences in the world.   It's about questioning what was written thousands of years ago and what such actually means today to our modern society.  Some people are comfortable trusting that what was written way back when is entirely 'accurate' today, but many don't feel this way and I think that's where progressive Christianity started from.

I think sites like the main site to this forum try to outline what PC is, but I don't think the intention is to lock down the definition and say "this is what PC has to be".  Not having concrete borders can be difficult for some.  Many people like hard and fast labels.  I don't think PC is trying to define itself specifically.

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6 hours ago, PaulS said:

I regard progressive Christianity as a broad brush applied to people who no longer find doctrinal 'absolutes' as speaking truth in our modern world.  Christianity is changing as it always has, and as we move into a new age many Christians question 'traditional' teachings and weigh them up against other experiences in the world.   It's about questioning what was written thousands of years ago and what such actually means today to our modern society.  Some people are comfortable trusting that what was written way back when is entirely 'accurate' today, but many don't feel this way and I think that's where progressive Christianity started from.

I think sites like the main site to this forum try to outline what PC is, but I don't think the intention is to lock down the definition and say "this is what PC has to be".  Not having concrete borders can be difficult for some.  Many people like hard and fast labels.  I don't think PC is trying to define itself specifically.

Difference between PC and pC.  With an estimated 45k sects and denominations, whatever you think about Christianity someone somewhere has already founded a church based on those ideas.

The official PC is a publishing house for mainstream liberal churches, but compared to the Unitarian Universalist denomination PC's are bible thumpers.

 

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46 minutes ago, thormas said:

So the Unitarians are pC even mores than PC?

I think so.  Unitarians are closer to the Frisbee-terians.  Their faith spends a lot of time flying over the fences of other religions and philosophies.  

I think many members (past & present) of this forum would feel very much at home in a UU congregation.

 

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24 minutes ago, thormas said:

I like it Burl - sounds great!

Stole that one from George Carlin.  Frisbeeterians: we believe when you die your soul flies up on a roof and you can't get it down.

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7 hours ago, Burl said:

I think many members (past & present) of this forum would feel very much at home in a UU congregation.

 

Indeed, there are many similarities, probably the strongest being the inclusiveness of both for all peoples regardless of gender, sexual orientation, marital status, race, or even religious beliefs for that matter.  Probably the most striking similarity is recognition that nobody has a monopoly on God and that God means all sorts of different things to different people.

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10 hours ago, PaulS said:

Indeed, there are many similarities, probably the strongest being the inclusiveness of both for all peoples regardless of gender, sexual orientation, marital status, race, or even religious beliefs for that matter.  Probably the most striking similarity is recognition that nobody has a monopoly on God and that God means all sorts of different things to different people.

No one has a monopoly on god.  God has a monopoly on us.

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7 hours ago, Burl said:

No one has a monopoly on god.  God has a monopoly on us.

Although it appears that some 'views' speak more powerfully when "weigh(ed) up against (our) other experiences in the world."  This seems to be evident given the comments of a number on this site concerning their traditional theistic unbringing.

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8 hours ago, Burl said:

No one has a monopoly on god.  God has a monopoly on us.

No one has a monopoly on the universe either. I don't even have a monopoly on my back yard.

But the universe does shape us.

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