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  1. In my view, I think if you study the book of John one may come to the conclusion that the kingdom was there already rather than imminent although it may have been the ancient view of many as you say that it was a future event which i don't see in the NT recorded teachings of Jesus. Also It was recorded in Luke that the kingdom doesn't come with outward observation. (Luke 17:10). It can't be seen with the physical eyes, only the effects of it. Also Luke 17:20 to me confirms it along with Matt 12:28. Each in their own order rather than a single coming in time for all. Even in Paul's 2nd letter to 2Corinthians 5:15 he talks of being in Christ old things Have (past tense) passed away and all things have become new. He speaks of an old creature and a new creature and the passing away in Christ of the old and all things becoming new. This to me is New Jerusalem which is above. (Gal 4:26 not physical like old Jerusalem) It seems to me it is a single event but not in time. For those in Christ the world has ended or in Bible language the end of the world has come. (as was previously experienced for that person) Even without Bible writings it is my experience that the kingdom is here now even though there are many that do not enter in. Math 23:13 seems to agree with my experience. ("Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. Physical death is not required to enter. Perhaps people will still be waiting for a global physical event for another 2000 years or so. 🙂 Joseph
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    Favorite fruits and vegetables

    Perhaps we can all agree that a majority of humans have evolved or adapted to be omnivores but that they may choose to be frugivores and can thrive on either diet? Joseph
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    Favorite fruits and vegetables

    Fish is a meat i like and seems basic and essential to man. I like collard greens, black-eyed peas, carrots, celery, spinach, onions, cabbage, sweet peppers and broccoli in that order and for fruit, apples, pineapples, peaches, blueberries, and watermelon in no particular order. Also Watermelon makes a great wine. Unfortunately my body at this age can't tolerate much alcohol in any form. 😄 It seems to me that most humans will thrive on fruits and vegetables but i wouldn't say we were designed to be frugivores. We were designed and have developed to be what we are today at this point in time. Omnivore. One is free to go either way as we have adapted to handle a mixture of both.
  4. Don't know. I am not in agreement with any one book. All books seem to have something to offer including those of other religions and those of no religion. Joseph
  5. If i was forced to pick one i would say Progressive Reconstructionism. Why? Only because it is the closest to my experience but i was not aware of any such a defined stream while it was happening. (deconstruction and reconstruction) To me, putting a label on a stream , while i understand why people do, does little to accurately portray the complexity of what influenced a person.
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    Welcome Lucian, Hope you find some of what you are looking for here. Joseph
  7. It seems to me that Life never ends. It only sees a change of form. Death is, according to Christianity in my view, overcome by dying daily to the flesh and a transformation that occurs which may be said to becoming alive to the Spirit which one might see as the one life in all things. I personally no longer see it as an afterlife because there to me is only Life. No before or after. It seems to me that the Kingdom is here now, howbeit, all are not aware of it as if blinded by life in the flesh. Just my thoughts on the matter, Joseph
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    Favorite fruits and vegetables

    I think vegetables are a healthy choice but i would not say that man is by design limited to vegetables, fruits and nuts seeds and legumes. Welcome Lucian, Joseph
  9. Anyone interested in a book discussion of "The Power of Now , A Guide to Spiritual Enlightenment" by Eckhart Tolle? It contains an introduction and 10 Chapters and we could discuss 1 chapter a week over a 10 week period. "You are here to enable the divine purpose of the universe to unfold. That is how important you are!" ---Eckhart Tolle
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    The Power of Now - By Eckhart Tolle

    It seems to me that when reading a book such as this one, the reader can take the positionality of the authors premise or statements as not valid , or the authors premise as valid, or neither and will withhold judgement til one has read it all and tested it for oneself. In my experience the 3 rd position seems the best. I personally can relate to Tolle and see much in common with other religions at a deep level. His relating to what Jesus and the Buddha is recorded saying in particular tickles my interest for further exploration. Sorry i have not been keeping up as i recently moved to a larger home that had been vacated for some time and it has required much of my time for the last 2 months. It has been challenging but Life as always has been good. Joseph
  11. To all members and visitors, May this new year bestow on you much progress in your spiritual walk regardless of your path. Joseph
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    Thanks for sharing Paul.
  13. There seemed no need for mine as it was adequately answered by you. I am in agreement with your last two sentences as a summary.
  14. I think you have answered your own question quite well.
  15. In my view, Your body is an energy field. One does not need words or to be fluent in religion or concepts to be awake to Being. The joy of living comes from Being and needs no understanding nor need for questions. Joseph
  16. Thomas, I, like you, also can be seen as a panentheist and don't see demons as being in opposition to God or as other powers in a war against God. In my view, demons can be seen as perhaps what we might consider as negative energy fields not unlike the conditioned field we consider our physical body and mind but vibrating at a frequency that is not physically perceived by your physical eyes to be considered a normal conditioned human. This is not a traditional understanding but i have personally perceived such in the spirit so to speak. In my experience most people are asleep to their ground of being and merely acting out their conditioning here. To that person or persons their brain and unconsciousness make them more susceptible to this demonic influence or negative energy field that you don't see with your eyes but can be perceived as if seen. If people are more conscious of their ground of being they would have a 'higher' level of consciousness at least at that point in time, that negates a personal influence of negativity and allow them the power or faith to raise the frequency surrounding themselves and others to repel demons. I have both seen and experienced this. Joseph
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    Greetings Derek, Came through the same traditional path and found it also a very painful but rewarding journey. It is good to hear you fellowship in peace with other religions. I think study of each will reveal many commonalities even though the words may be different. Sounds like you are very open-minded and have set great goals for yourself. May you find much joy and peace in your quest and welcome to our Progressive Christianity forum. Joseph
  18. Yes, it is possible. While i do not understand it I have been around long enough to see things that might suggest such.
  19. It would be interesting to share your story here how and when you had your first God experience.that you recognized as such. You may also include events that you previously did not recognize as such at the time. No debate, disagreement, questioning validity or criticism allowed, just sharing of your story. Any takers? It seems to me it would be interesting reading. Joseph
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    Your first God experience

    I can certainly now understand that. Does Music or Art affect you similarly to the beauty and intricacy of nature?
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    The Power of Now - By Eckhart Tolle

    It would appear or seem that way but it is something else itself that is watching the mind. It is a subtle difference and Tolle holds the view that the mind is not an entity. The mind is a tool that the real entity has attached itself to.in this state of evolution and therefore takes it on or identifies the mind as itself. That which is still and beyond thought is what Tolle speaks of as the witness. Perhaps it is pointed to as no-mind in Buddhism and Spirit in Christianity or possibly Atman in Hinduism? Anyway, your point is well taken from a skeptical point of view. It cannot be understood with the mind but seems to me it can only be experienced. It is quite the conundrum
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    Your first God experience

    My first experience was as a small child and such that i could not put words to it other than to say that when words came to be a part of my life I could only describe the experience as pure water flowing in perfect harmony and peace and in stillness with a sense of home. This gradually faded away into an ebtide of ripples that was then experienced as life in the flesh which i recall was neither home nor desireable after such an experience. After a normal Catholic childhood devoid of further experience and disillusioned by answers from the church along with my brother i left the Catholic church at age 14 never to return except for weddings and funerals. I was given a book written by Norman Vincent Peale called "The Power of Positive Thinking" at about the age of 17 which changed my life drastically. My life was filled with goals all of which were satisfied and filled by the age of 33 as if i had a silver spoon in my mouth. Yet i found myself empty inside and depressed in spite of such success in obtaining all the material goals i had set for myself. This started a desperate inward hunger and search for meaning in my life that was beyond the material world which i had found lacked true peace and contentment. Looking to the Bible and a non-denominational full Gospel church, I became highly focused on the quest as if my life depended on it. I was determined to find that which I had one experienced as a child but had for so long evaded me. I did not find it in the church system but rather driving over a bridge over the Ohio river having gone as far as i could on my own power with no success when a realization came to me that the cloud blocking my realization of God was at that time unforgiveness in my heart of a particular person. That instant , i made the decision that it was not worth holding on to such a thing and i willfully let it go and immediately experienced that Home and a knowing that God was always present , not separate from myself. The only thing preventing that realization at that time was that unforgiveness i was holding on to. From that moment forward my life was filled with that presence and miracles and experiences that defy any logical explanations in my mind. When I should have died for my errors I lived, when I deserved failure for my mistakes i prospered. Why?, i cannot say except that happens to be my part in the miracle of the dance we call life. My word view of the experience of God in my life comes closest to the word Pantheism or Panentheism yet both words still fail to convey that which they point to. Words help to communicate to others but even before there were any words there was knowing. As a child before words or word thoughts i knew . Words were not necessary. Today i want to share this yet even without words or language or a thought i want to share this. In my view, that unction to share existed before the thought and without words . May everyone find Home and rest from their journey and their portion ( whatever that is ) of the dance we call life.
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    Your first God experience

    Thanks for sharing Thomas. I can really relate to your words "I had a sense of God and felt God was and was always with me (and everyone). " Perhaps that "sense of God" can be considered an experience of God whether it was momentary or ongoing? Thanks again for sharing. Joseph
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    The Power of Now - By Eckhart Tolle

    That is an interesting observation Paul. However, I don't think he is advocating to use your mind other than in problem solving as necessary to carry on with everyday life. Rather i see his emphasis on watching the mind and its effects on emotions and our actions. When it is done on a regular basis there becomes increasing gaps in thoughts and an identity shift into who you really are rather than mind identification of who you are which he puts the name ego to. At that point one realizes or rather knows that the mind is only a tool and a minicule part of who or what you really are. To me, Living in the moment is being present / awareness more than using the mind or being lost (unconsciously following your thought patterns) in your compulsive thoughts. At least that is my take on his meaning and my own personal experience. Anyway, regardless of interpretation , anything benefial or that brings more peace in ones life that comes from any teachings in my view is positive and worth pursuing. Joseph