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  1. Burl

    Communion Experiences

    Peter Abelard described communion as the transformation of God's raw creation into something life-enhancing by the labor of mankind. Inedible grains transformed into nourishing bread; grapes do not rot but are transformed into storable wine. I always liked that one. My personal view is that the Eucharistic liturgy is a sanctification of the congregation and an ensconcement and elevation of Jesus. God is everywhere, but in the glorification of the Eucharist corruption is stripped away leaving only purity.
  2. Burl

    Communion Experiences

    Is the crossed arms a common Episcopalan thing? I thought they had open communion, which means I have screwed up a couple times (big surprise ). If somebody crossed their arms at me during the Lord's Supper I would be completely bumfuzzled, and would have to fight the desire to press their nose and say 'beep'.
  3. The original Heathens! Topic was lost in the last software upgrade.
  4. Burl

    Communion Experiences

    Talk to the priest privately. I don't know much about Episcopalian liturgy. I always found following their liturgy confusing. Kinda like the horse track and the need to simultaneously manage the program and the Racing Form.
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    Heathens! 2

    Haunnakah joins the High Holidays
  6. A physicist opines (in NATURE) that matter is an illusion and existence is only mental and spiritual. http://www.newdualism.org/papers/R.Henry/436029a.html
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    Some thoughts on Pluralism

    Everything that is alive grows, develops and changes. A sapling is fully a tree yet it is not a tree.
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    Some thoughts on Pluralism

    I don't think being a slave to human weaknesses is being fully human any more than being a zoo animal is being fully non-human. Think of it as living in heavy chains of lust, greed, gluttony, sloth, pride, envy and wrath. These vices feed on themselves and dissipate the human spirit. The more one can minimize these drives the more free and human one can become, and the more one benefits society and themselves. Compare to the virtues of prudence, justice, temperance, courage, faith, hope and charity. Nurturing these also makes one more human and less a slave of drives and habit.
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    Some thoughts on Pluralism

    I'm with Thormas. Perfection is a process not an achievement.
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    Heathens! 2

    Issue resolved.
  11. Theistic is not a modifier, it is part of the word. Panen-THEISTIC. A specific type of theism. I think most religions are prophetic revolutions, not gradualist evolutions. Akenaton, Buddha, Muhummad, Zoroaster, Moses, Jesus - all were severe deviations from the status quo. I do not know of a henotheistic religion. I think somebody made that one up for a dissertation. Demons, Bodhisatvas, angels &c should not be classed with gods. They refer to non-material, but god created beings. As for the mosquitos, they suck. Thank God for autumn.
  12. Burl

    Whaddup

    Honestly, the Progressive Christianity site content is unrelated to this small group. Now that Bishop Spong is no longer active I don't see the movement developing critical mass. I suggest continuing your personal journey and not getting too deep into those points.
  13. Burl

    Whaddup

    Commonalities are expected. The interesting parts are found when teasing out the differences.
  14. Panentheism is a belief that we exist completely within the theistic God. Like fish which exist within water. The existence of other created beings is not henotheistic. I'm not sure henotheism ever actually existed. It seems to be a wiggle word employed when people want to guess that monotheism developed out of polytheism. I can't say I know the reason God created the seen world. The reason for creating mosquitos is something I find particularly troublesome.
  15. Acts 17:26-28 English Standard Version (ESV) 26 And he made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined allotted periods and the boundaries of their dwelling place, 27 that they should seek God, and perhaps feel their way toward him and find him. Yet he is actually not far from each one of us, 28 for “‘In him we live and move and have our being’; Expand into Paul's analogy of us as parts of the body of Christ. Reduce to our existence as a system of individual but connected cells and biological microflora. It's entertaining when you become more literal in interpretation than me . You know God's purpose for creating the seen world?
  16. I am a panentheist (the NT biblical theism) who believes in God's heavenly council, demons, angels, Nephilim, witches, ghosts, succubui, ifrit, djinn and other created material and non-material lifeforms. I do not necessarily accept the folkloric evidence as veridical, but that is the most efficient way to discuss these things. The diversity of life on earth demonstrates God's love of variety, and I don't see why the unseen realm should be less complex.
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    Whaddup

    I like small groups. There is a section with personal essays somewhere. They put in new software and I'm not sure where it ended up.
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    Whaddup

    Welcome, Derek!
  19. A psychiatrist who has treated demonic posession: https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/07/01/as-a-psychiatrist-i-diagnose-mental-illness-and-sometimes-demonic-possession/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.21ff8fd7cc5
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