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  1. For those interested. https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00788R001700210016-5.pdf
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    The Power of Now - By Eckhart Tolle

    Eckhart is not aligned with any particular religion or tradition. In his teaching, he conveys a simple yet profound message with the timeless and uncomplicated clarity of the ancient spiritual masters: there is a way out of suffering and into peace. The first chapter is pretty clear in that Tolle's method is to repress many important aspects of experience. This does not sound healthy in the least. He writes entirely too quickly and with very few examples. His statements are not supported or elucidated. I have a sinking feeling that this is going to be a lot of him trying to induce a temporary sense of well-being by implementing psychological defense mechanisms.
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    CIA whitepaper on consciousness

    No, you need to do your own work if this interests you. The links show that serious scientifc work exists, and that the government finds it valuable enough to put it into applied projects. Researchers have written books on these subjects, and that is where to start. I have no particular interest in the nature of consciousness.
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    CIA whitepaper on consciousness

    Lots of declassed information in the CIA reading room. And no, I can't explain consciousness in a forum post 😂. https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/search/site/Remote viewing https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/search/site/Consciousness https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/search/site/MKULTRA?f[0]=dm_field_release_date%3A[2017-01-01T00%3A00%3A00Z TO 2018-01-01T00%3A00%3A00Z]
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    Objective or Not?

    Darwin's "On the Origins of Species" might qualify. Its values of supremacy/inferiority and eugenics as a social good are disputable but objective.
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    CIA whitepaper on consciousness

    It would seem so. Much of the rmote viewing and MKultra papers have been declassified. More fundamental is that the study of consciousness is a fact-based field of scientific research. The days of philosophically making up one's own imaginary ideas of the nature of consciousness are over.
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    CIA whitepaper on consciousness

    People have been talking about remote viewing and mind control for a long time, but the documentation that poves these were not 'conspiracy theory' has only recently become declassified. Derision is very effective in keeping people quiet.
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    CIA whitepaper on consciousness

    This is U.S. Army research from 40 years ago. Certainly it has improved in that time.
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    The Power of Now - By Eckhart Tolle

    I'll try, but I hope people discuss the book and don't just use it as an excuse to ramble on about their private ideations. The TNH book topic was very disappointing.
  10. The original Heathens! Topic was lost in the last software upgrade.
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    Trouble interpreting the second coming of Christ

    This is a peculiar idea. What exactly did you read? Hal Lindsey?
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    Am I a biblical fundamentalist?

    The flaw in this is that the late 19c belief system that 'the only thing that matters is what the Bible says' is not only unbiblical, but the Bible is obviously chock-a-block full of non-scriptural revelations. The Bible also never makes any claim to inerrancy, which is another common fundamentalist paradox. I believe Fundamentalism as formally organized is now an extinct sect, with the term 'fundamentalism' adopted by a host of different independent churches. Fundamentalism was an early 20c Christian movement defined in "The Fundamentals" - a series of ninety essays published in twelve volumes. Fundamentalists were certainly not 'Bible only', but required their own body of dogma larger than the Bible itself! In truth, the Christians today who identify as fundamentalists today are anything but. They are trying to recreate a splinter Christian dogma/social culture dating back to the 1800's from memory and imagination. God bless 'em, but their planet flies in an eccentric orbit. This peculiar notion that the Bible is a standalone authority seems to come from a mistaken take on Luther's 'Five Solas', one of which is 'Sola Scriptura' where Luther denies that a church can demand that any human work that is not biblical is required for salvation. This eliminated indulgences and five out of the seven sacraments. Many modern Protestants have twisted this into 'only what is in the Bible is true' which is incorrect. The most accurate statement is that the Bible is sufficient but not exhaustive. "Now there are also many other things Jesus did. Were every one of them to be written, I suppose that the world itself could not contain all the books that would be written." John 21:25
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    Am I a biblical fundamentalist?

    From the Didache, AD 50-160
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    Am I a biblical fundamentalist?

    Abortion was prohibited by the early Christians. Contrast with the Roman custom of infanticide by exposure. Later abortion was permitted by Christians but only before the heartbeat could be heard with the rationalization that ensoulment had not yet occurred.
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    Am I a biblical fundamentalist?

    No, most of that is not in the Bible. Some of the bolded headings are, but even then the non-bolded part is largely incompatible with orthodox Christian thought. Each point is a subject in itself, deserving of several sermons and not readily reducible to an internet post. St. Bernard of Clairveaux wrote over 40 sermons just on Song of Solomon, a book that most Christians avoid whenever possible.
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    Who are you?

    Yes. I am also a spiritual being that may be chosen to continue beyond the existence of the listed components.
  17. Start with Wikipedia on Darby. Lots of YouTube stuff on him too. Darby, Scofield, Miller and that thread is where inerrancy, dispensationism, rapture theology and the other wierd ideas started. Like all cults they centered around a single person, usually one with a self-translated Bible to support their eccentric ideas. As for the literary interpretations of the Bible in Christianity absolutely everything written before the Protestant Reformation will serve. A really great, short book on the pioneer American circuit rider is The Autobiography of Peter Cartwright. I used to work it into my classes on Methodism whenever possible.
  18. The Christian opinion until the 1800's has always been that the Bible must be read as a Divine symbolic and poetic narrative. Reading the Bible 'literally' meant reading it as literature, and taken along with with the oral history, tradition, reason and experience. A 19c lay preacher named Darby was the guy who taught the Bible must be interpreted strictly as inerrant fact. He was rejected by Christian Europe and finally found succor on the American frontier. Mix a wannabe preacher with no training and a bunch of hardscrabble pioneers in a dangerous and unforgiving land and you get inerrancy. This inerrancy concept simply did not exist earlier.
  19. By inerrant I assume you are referring to the Chicago Statement? The Bible never claims inerrancy, so I don't pay much attention to that type of Darbyist dogma.
  20. K Jesus took a bundle of cords and whipped the animals, not the moneychangers.
  21. I dislike these long, multi-part posts. Better to discuss a single point at a time. The non-existence of autographs of the Gospels are only important to hyper-fundamentalists, of which we have exactly zero. We have found many newer and better copies of the Gospels We have a tremendously greater knowledge of Koine Greek, and the translations continue to improve. History and archaeology have supplied much more context, and those of us who who believe in divine inspiration also tend to believe in progressive revelation. Interpretations grow and change along with society, general knowledge and in line with tradition. And please read the text before commenting. Jesus did NOT whip any moneychangers. Look in the book and read closely.
  22. Instead of looking for answers, try discovering better questions. Just making a list of things God finds important is a very revealing exercise.