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  1. Burl

    The Purpose of Life

    The Apostolic fathers were cenobitic monks who lived in isolation with scriptures and prayer. They lived long before the age of scholasticism, which was a 12-14c Roman tradition. Theirs was not primarily a intellectual activity but one of faith. I told you the name would be worthless, which you now demonstrate was completely true. I also asked you why you were asking the question so I could help you form a useful question but you refused to answer. Therefore I provided a few references on the physical manifestations of the indwelling of the Holy Ghost, which was the subject under discussion, and let you make your own inferences. You did view all six parts of the interview with St. Seraphim of Sarov? It is one interview broken up into parts. Seraphim's glowing, dazzling nature relates directly to the burning bush and the ark of the covenant. This peculiar spiritual fire is often mentioned in non-Christian spiritual traditions too. Also his ability to keep him and his interviewer warm in the snow and his interviewer's ability to recognize the Saint's glorification. Today the physical manifestations of the Holy Ghost are most visible through healing, exorcism, prophecy and speaking in tongues and particularly the biblical charisms. The spiritual effects of peace, patience and contentment are infinitely more valuable though.
  2. Burl

    The Purpose of Life

    My precise point in not just naming someone. All of the Apostolic Fathers wrote meditations on Scripture. These were not cathechisms. They were lengthy prose ramblings written to people who were being severely persecuted and martyred. I believe there are about 12 volumes, and I am not about to go through my 80 semester hours of seminary notes to figure out exactly which lecture covered this for people who don't believe they even have a soul or any reason to be concerned with its care and training or consider divine revelation to be the primary source that it is. I told you a name was a useless response to a trivial question. Maybe now you believe me since that you have proven it to yourself. And for goodness sake give up on Wikipedia.
  3. Burl

    Enjoying the rest

    Good for you. Mine was 30 years ago and sheer misery.
  4. Burl

    The Purpose of Life

    You really need to read all of them. You cannot seperate them as you can Protestants. Start with prayerfully reading Cyril of Jesusalem, Athnasius and Gregory of Nanzien (sp?). They typically refer to we now call Pentecost as just another instance of baptim or simply thae Holy Ghost.
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    The Purpose of Life

    There's your problem. It's not about arguments. It's about revelation, meditation and prayer expressed in prose. Aquinas was the guy famous for scholastic arguments.
  6. Burl

    The Purpose of Life

    Baptism is directly linked to Pentecost and the ability of the Holy Spirit to indwell in humanity. Baptism is how souls who were not present at Pentecost become connected with the Holy Spirit. Do some research and I can help, but although I have been graced with the holy charism of teaching I do not have the time to write a personal homilies. There are plenty of books online that cover your foundational inadequacies, including and especially the scriptures themselves. Work on your self-education and I can help you with understanding in two or three sentence increments.
  7. Burl

    The Purpose of Life

    Did you earn an SSF too? More important - were you baptized?
  8. Burl

    The Purpose of Life

    I have already posted my bona fides. Perhaps you could post your qualifications to comment on church history and ancient literature?
  9. Burl

    The Purpose of Life

    I'm waiting for you to explain how the name of a specific person will help you appreciate the physical nature of the Kingdom of God. I think you are just asking pointless questions as part of your general cynicism. You can pick any of the Apostolic fathers as it follows directly from the bible, and there is no shortage of information on the physical aspects of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. I assume you were baptized in that wierdo church and wonder why you pray so many posts on this Christian message board. Those events are related. If I give you a specific name how will that help you?
  10. Burl

    The Purpose of Life

    Not exactly what I said. I was talking about physical manifestations, and access to the Kingdom of God to humanity in general.
  11. Burl

    The Purpose of Life

    Orthodox doctrine has no theological variants. They are not like Protestants where one can invent novel interpretations. All Orthodox doctrine must be approved by council as coherent with all previous doctrine including the Apostolic Fathers. Variation and independent interpretation are simply not relevant. Orthodox Doctrine in 2019 is constent with Orthodox Doctrine in 119. This was the reason for the Great Schism. The Roman Church pronounced doctrine independently of council.
  12. Burl

    The Purpose of Life

    Still having trouble looking things up yourself? Paul, if I spoon-fed you that trivia what use would you make of it? Better you look it up yourself and develop more meaningful questions.
  13. Burl

    The Purpose of Life

    You are just scratching the surface of the imagery. It's rooted in the the vine/vineyard/vintner parables.
  14. Burl

    The Real Jesus

    No.
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    The Real Jesus

    No.
  16. Burl

    The Real Jesus

    I would guess no. Anyone starving in the desert who refused food could probably pass up a wank.
  17. Burl

    Why does it matter if its factual

    Asking better questions is the whole point, but no reason to feel sorry for the fundies. God bless them. They are better off than they would be otherwise, and like you it's a stage they can grow beyond.
  18. Burl

    The Purpose of Life

    Physical and spiritual clearly coexist, and Jesus did eat and drink with the disciples after zHis resurrection.
  19. https://quillette.com/2018/12/27/from-astrology-to-cult-politics-the-many-ways-we-try-and-fail-to-replace-religion/
  20. Burl

    Why does it matter if its factual

    Some parts are more factual than others. The key seems to be understanding the context of the people who wrote it, what it meant to them, and what they were trying to communicate.
  21. Burl

    The Purpose of Life

    Keep reading. I only linked the first page. Further on the subject of physical manifestation of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, listen to this testimony of St. Seraphim of Sarov. A fascinating 15C account many westerners may not be familiar with. Six short parts; the interviewer gets answers to many of your questions.
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    The Purpose of Life

    Start here if you are seriously interested in the subject. http://www.ccel.org/ccel/kuyper/holy_spirit.vi.vii.i.html?highlight=pentecost#highlight
  23. Burl

    The Purpose of Life

    It goes back to the Apostolic fathers and is still standard Orthodox teaching, so it's about as early as one can get.
  24. Burl

    The Purpose of Life

    The physical kingdom was manifest at Pentecost.
  25. Burl

    First Principles

    On the value of relying on reason alone as authority.
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