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    My evolving journey

    Good morning, well it is here in Alberta. I guess like most people my faith journey has been an evolving process. Started my journey 35 years ago as a staunch fundamentalist and litralist, spend several years wondering around not being sure what I believed and in the past 10 years have found my place in the body as a Progressive Post Modernist Believer. I guess many can identify that we learn most in the valleys. In the past 6 months I have spent many hours listening to John Spong, great teacher, incredible mind and real easy to listen to. In many ways Im saddened that so many of my network of friends are unable to hear his message, reminds me of how closed off and arrogant I was when trapped in litralism. I'm excite about my journey and thrilled to be back on this forum. Shallom Terry
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    My evolving journey

    Im not so sure that having understanding brings internal satisfaction. If it did then everyone who had understanding/knowledge would be in a good place, but as we both know that is not the case. My conviction is that man has an inner longing to find something that for most is missing in their lives, we all know that materialism & the intellect cant fill that void
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    My evolving journey

    Apologies I should have used the word "if one" rather than your. It's interesting how quick misunderstanding takes place on forums. I think that there are many people out there who have their faith in their faith/beliefs, I think to some degree I was one of them. Christianity ends up being about believing the corporate message. Once you start with the Bible as the infallible word of God, its difficult to disagree, because if I do, I'm not disagreeing with whoever I'm disagreeing with God. For me this is about allowing people to believe whatever they want. My question is: "is it working for you" Is it producing peace, joy and contentment"
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    My evolving journey

    my first impression of your comments is they rather judgemental
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    My evolving journey

    I guess if you've got your faith in any of the above systems you mentioned you're in trouble already.
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    My evolving journey

    I'm not sure that Spong's book is for those who've lost their faith, I think its for those that have a strong faith but have rejected literalism. I for one have not lost my faith but I have certainly walked away from literal fundamentalism. I find his books insightful and faith inspiring. It's not about the doctrine its about the story and what speaks to your heart.
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    My evolving journey

    I'm not sure. I guess one of the questions we need to ask is, why did the early disciples follow Jesus? From what I've read none of them sounded very religious other than Paul. I think they were attracted to the power He had in His life. Today its very hard to consider Jesus without dialling up the Bible, Church or religion. For me the issue that makes people religious is: dogmatism. I was on a "Christian Forum" and the 1st time you mentioned anything that people didn't agree with, meaning there didn't understand you got send a page of scriptures to back up there position. My response to that is: "Get a Life"
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    No much action

    When I suffer you can pay, sounds fair to me.
  9. Doesn't seem to be much action on this forum. Terry
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    Biblical Sexuality

    We have followed the case with interest. Our situation is a little different. Firstly no kids involved, and Coco is my wife's Japanese girlfriend, so legally it leaves me out the loop, as legally i'm still married to 1 wife. It just so happens that they are both bi-sexual. Its been working well for several years and neither of us plans on walking away.
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    Biblical Sexuality

    I have recently finished the 1st draft of my new book, "Biblical Sexuality" well maybe not Biblical but my understanding of what the Bible teaches on sexuality. I am more than happy to make it freely available in PDF format for those interested. As someone who has a living faith and in a triad relationship with 2 women we have spend years being bombarded and shamed by religious fanatics that tell us our life style is outside the Biblical model of a Godly relationship. The book is a result of my own personal study and inspiration from others in similar relationships. Below is the Table of contents. Acknowledgements Introduction Christian Sexual Conflicts The Church and the Problem of Pleasure Marriage, Monogamy, and the Power Structure of Institutional Christianity The Gospel of Christ, Sexual Liberty and Fulfillment How Sex Was Made Sin Lust or Covet What is Sexual immorality? Fornication (Singles’ Sexuality) is Not a Biblical Conflict Adultery Sex and Other Religions What About Love Sex as Communion Conclusion Additional Reading About Us If your interested in a free copy you can email me at: terryjohns@live.ca Shalom
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    No much action

    "The underlying principle of socialism is the equal sharing of suffering"
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    My evolving journey

    I'm in the process of reading Biblical Literalism, (A Gentile Heresy) by John Spong. Its a great book, as an ex fundamentalist this book confirms my rejection of literalism which started several years ago. Other great books Iv'e read in the past few years are: Hand Me Another Brick Charles Swindoll Open Marriage George & Nina O’ Neil Love Wins Rob Bell Sexual Liberation Raymond Lawrence Leaving Christianity to Follow Jesus James Jones Why I’m an Atheist Who Believes in God Frank Schaeffer The Four Agreements Don Miguel Ruiz Battlefield of the Mind Joyce Meyer What is the Bible? Rob Bell Sex at Dawn Christopher Ryan & Cadida Jetha All the above are highly recomended. Terry
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    Presidential Poll

    Mr Trump appears to have a real struggle with those that disagree with him, lets home Mike Spence hang around. T
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    No much action

    Food rationing could start soon. I'm a Brit living here since 2005. Love lots about living here but some of it not so keen on. Im sorry to say that this is a province that is partially filled with not very bright people. Terry
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    Presidential Poll

    Isn't balance the hardest thing to find. the US needs the diplomat, it also needs the out the box business man/women, sadly both come with lots of baggage and it's usually the baggage we dont like. Often politicians are bound up with a fear of man and become a political juggler and the entrepreneur business man is usually a narcissist, bully and one man band. Hello Mr Trump
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    Presidential Poll

    Maybe what you guys need to run your country is a sharp business man/politician. Sorry they dont exist. Last time you had the politician now you got the business man/loose canon. OUCH. Watch this space. God bless America. Yea, right..........
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    Greetings from new member

    Welcome, I to have just come back to this forum. Let's hope it becomes home for both of us. Shalom Terry
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    My evolving journey

    As I look back fundamentalism provided a real rock for me when I came to faith, as the majority of my life was shifting sand. I never lost my faith just shifted it to a trust in God rather than a narrative which placed more emphasis on believing right rather than living right. Just finished writing a book called "Biblical Sexuality" which Im very excited about. Shalom
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    Have ANY of your beliefs ever changed?

    Absolutely. Started my faith journey in 1982, at a very low point in my life which had collapsed. For the first 15 years of my journey I was a fundamentalist Charismatic embedded in the faith movement. My faith started changing in 1997 when I started asking different questions, which seemed obvious to me but apparently a real problem to other believers as they would have been to me just a few years earlier. Understanding that the scriptures were never written to be literally interpreted changed almost everything for me. Bishop John Shelby Spong has been a huge source of encouragement for me. My faith is now in my Father in heaven and not the words of the Bible.
  21. Below is an article I recently wrote for one of the National Newspapers I write a column for. Marriage what’s wrong? By: Terry Johns When one looks at the emotional damage that the traditional closed monogamous marriage has caused over the past few hundred years and the destructiveness it promotes, "I'm yours, you’re mine and we are one" it's hardly surprising in this age of self-awareness, sexual openness, free thinking, personal growth and self-help books that there is an epidemic of broken and shattered relationships. The monogamous exclusive relationship is fear and control based model, that places an emphasis on "the couple and togetherness" at the expense of the unique and authentic identity that we each have. This model is rapidly collapsing around the globe at an alarming rate. When one begins to understand that we aren't genetically wired for monogamous relationships, (Sex & Dawn by Christopher Ryan) one starts to see that maybe the current failure rate has less to do with imperfect people trying to make sense of their lives together, but more about a model that is suffocating and unsupportive of our humanity and authentic identity. One of the major problems is that even in the midst of the titanic failure rate, Mr. & Miss. average are not only reluctant to look at alternative models, but are aggressively opposed to a paradigm shift in their thinking, concluding that any deviation from the norm even though it doesn't work for the majority, is a preposterous concept. Disempowered by personal insecurity, fear, jealousy and conformity, it's tragic to see tens of thousands of Canadians who have been damaged by their own personal relationship failures, actively seeking another partnership still based on the old destructive, fear based model. How bad does it need to get before the masses get a reality check and wake up to some hard facts, that what we're doing isn't working and is only going to get worse with more people being hurt, not to mention the financial strain it places on our goverments. At the heart of the problem is a controlling structure that promotes not only a wrong concept of love within marriage, what it is and how it works, but a structure that facilitates and host’s mistrust, fear and dishonesty. Love is NOT a feeling and is not to be confused with romantic emotions, love is much deeper than any feeling, and it is expressed through commitment, honour and respect. We love our kids, yet there is no romantic emotion, sure there are strong feelings but love is way deeper than any feeling. Sadly many couples terminate their partnerships because the romantic feelings have either diminished or disappeared completely and without shared core values there is nothing keeping them together. If we come to the marriage party with a wrong concept of love, personal insecurity, jealousy and a need to feel validated by our partner, then our partnerships will almost certainly fail; if on the other hand we understand that no one person can fulfil all our needs, we can embrace the possibility through open and transparent dialogue of engaging and connecting with others without our primary partners feeling threatened. We must understand that genetically we all have capability of loving more than one person at a time. Although this may sound a radical concept, it is in fact how humanity has been shaped through the ages and is still a reality in many parts of the world today, France in particular. This becomes a major problem for most people and a path they are unable to pursue, due to low self -esteem, jealousy and fear. Remember the modern marriage structure is based on fear and control, NOT, love, trust, respect, honour, openness and humility, I guess it's not that difficult to see why most marriages fail. For me not to feel threatened by my partners involvement with other people I will need to feel secure in who I am as a person. Open Marriage not only validates the authenticity of the individual, but celebrates and supports togetherness within a structure that still allows each person to be true to who they are, within mutually agreed boundaries that THEY decide. Relationship researcher Lawrence Stone conducted a research project which included leading psychologists, psychotherapists, sociologists, psychiatrists, life coaches and family therapists. The final statement from the group after an exhaustive study of 20th century marriage was: “..that both physical desire and romantic love were unsafe bases for an enduring marriage/long term partnership, since both desire and romantic love were violent mental disturbances which would inevitably be of only short duration. The modern monogamous relationship structure promoted and endorsed by the church and licenced by the state is built around some very dangerous false and destructive assumptions, that one person can meet all your needs and that we are by nature monogamous, all the these assumptions are not only false, but unobtainable by the masses including the majority of those who promote the deception. Sadly this unsustainable relationship model is collapsing around the globe at alarming rates, yet in many ways the biggest tragedy is that very few are asking “why? & what’s wrong?” are there alternative models? and what would they look like? Therefore the masses carry on in their blindness incorrectly assuming that the reason there relationship failed was that had simply chosen the wrong person and the hunt for Mr. or Miss. right begins again. To move forward and bring about the radical paradigm shift that we urgently need to see, we need open dialog, transparent people and a willingness to learn and grow. Continuing to support a system that doesn’t work for the masses is as absurd as buying a car that has a historical failure rate of over 70%, no one in their right mind would do it. Terry Johns is a trained counsellor, author, public speaker, mentor and Life Coach. Since 1984 Terry has been empowering individuals, families and companies to reach past life's obstacles and pursue their goals with tenacity. Born in Canada, but having spent most of his life in the UK, Terry and his family moved back to Canada in March 2005. In the past 30 years Terry has travelled and worked in over 20 countries and has coached and mentored people from many different walks of life. Alongside his Coaching business Terry is a Race Car Driver and High Performance Driving Instructor. Terry & his wife Chris have been married 38 years and have two adult children. Solutions Life Coaching www.terryjohns.ca
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    Marriage What’S Wrong?

    A bad marriage is made up of 2 wounded people, marriage only works when both people have the same shared core values. Get both parties walking in emotional and spiritual health and the marriage improves. I ask my clients who have difficulty, "what are you contributing to this mess" Lets start working on you and lets stop the blaming and shamming of each other.
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    Marriage What’S Wrong?

    I'm always interested in feed back on my articles, but some times it not how it reads its how its heard. Terry PS Must be getting up time in OZ, have a great day.
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