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spiritseeker last won the day on June 15 2010

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About spiritseeker

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  • Birthday 03/12/1976

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    Bendigo. Australia
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    I love learning and discovering religion. I also love Aussie Rules Football.
  1. Hi guys, I have not been on here for along time but would love it if you could join my new blog located at www.utbministries.wordpress.com It is only early days but would appreciate the support. Thanks. Brad
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    Really Struggling With This!

    Thanks for the replies guys! I am by no means a fundamentalist and I have never had this line of thinking before and it is scary. But as it is part of my journey I have to discuss it, acknowledge it and continue along my path.
  3. Hi everyone! It has been along time since I have posted here but I have had some thoughts lately where I think I need to air them out here and get some of your opinions. Over the last year I have read alot of books on the trinity, christianity and Quakerism. I am very happy to be attending my monthly quaker meeting and through my reading I have discovered that I do believe in the trinity and Jesus as God. Now these comments are not on here to argue or disagree with anyone as I know people view God differently and I totally respect that. Although I am comfotable with my trinitarian thinking I have started having thoughts about all these different beliefs people have. I have been thinking that if I believe that Jesus is God then that means people who believe Jesus isn't God has an opposing view. One of must be right and one must be wrong. I hope this makes sense as I am just trying to write what I think. Obviously my trinitarian thinking could be the person who is wrong but I just want to try and get out of this way of thinking. I respect everyone will make their own decisions and if we are sincere and honest with ourselves trhen that is all we can do but did God plan it to be this way or would he/she be sitting there disappointed with how differently we all see and view things in regards to Jesus. If you have read this far, thank you for hearing me out and please feel free to ask me any questions if you are unsure of my thoughts. I look forward to your guidance, comments and thoughts. God bless. Brad
  4. Hi everyone! My name is Brad and I created a website with a friend called www.christianuniversalism.info as we just wanted an environment where we can all celebrate our humanity and our beliefs in a non judgemental way. Unfortunately I got really busy with my job as a teacher and let the forum lapse. I would love to reignite this forum and build a community that we can all be proud of. I really hope you do come onboard and participate, but if not I wish you well on your journey! Brad (spiritseeker on forum) www.christianuniversalism.info
  5. Hi again everyone! I was sitting in the back of my car as my youngest son was driving to my brothers house. He is a learner driver so we are giving him as much learning experience as possible. Anyway these 2 songs came on the radio and even though I was reading at the time I had to stop as my spirit made me sit and reflect on these beautiful songs. I really reflected on God when I heard these songs and would love to share them with you. I Believe - Blessid Union Of Souls Hold On - Wilson Phillips Love Brad P.S I know these songs are not necessarily religious but I would love for you to reflect on them and let me know how they make you feel.
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    The Play Called Life!

    Hi everyone, I had a great chat with a very close friend last night and after we got off the phone I felt compelled to write. I was not thinking about anything in particular but I was just sitting back enjoying the chat I had just had. Anyway I went and got a piece of paper and let my spirit do the talking. This is what ended up on my piece of paper. * God has created a play called 'life and it is up to us to be the stars! * To get the most out of the play called 'life' we must appreciate and celebrate the involvement of the 'creator' (God) and the 'director' (humanity). * Even though the creator (God) has a grand vision of the play called 'life' we must recognise and respect that the 'director' (humanity) will cast all types of people with varying experiences, values, ethics and beliefs. Through all of this we must never lose sight of the creators grand vision and play our role accordingly. * The creator loves and values every single persons position in the play called 'life'. From the star actor, to the boot polisher everyone has their part to play and the creator is proud! * As actors in the play called 'life' we ALL have automatic entry into the sequel! I was spiritually urged to send this to you all. I hope you enjoy it!
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    Philip Gulley

    Gday Steve, His fiction books are awesome. You are quite correct that he is a Quaker minister but to get to know his theology it is best to read a few of his sermons which are located at http://www.philipgulley.org/GRACETALK.htm I will paste below one of his sermons called Quaker Basics that gives you a good introduction. The Quaker Basics (The Universal Light) By Philip Gulley I’ve been talking with a wide variety of Quakers these past few months, discussing with them what it means to be a Quaker. It’s been an interesting experience. When I tell evangelical Quakers what progressive Quakers believe, they often say, “That’s not Quakerly!” When I tell progressive Quakers what evangelical Quakers believe, they say the same thing. It seems the only things Quakers agree upon is that other Quakers aren’t real Quakers. What does it mean to be Quaker? If we could visit the early 1700’s and ask Quakers that question, they would likely talk about not having creeds or pastors, about worshiping in silence under the guidance of the Spirit. They would no doubt mention pacifism. While they were telling us these things, we would notice they were speaking in the plain language of thee and thou, that they didn’t take off their hats and bow to us, and were dressed in plain clothing lacking any ornamentation. Indeed, were it possible to invent a time machine and transport those Quakers from that era to this one, they would be delighted to see that Quakerism had endured, but would be mystified, if not downright appalled, by the religious metamorphosis and mutations of modern Quakerism. Any Quaker who claims to follow a pure, unadulterated version of Quakerism is either uninformed, arrogant, or odd. Quakerism has undergone vast changes over the past 350 years. This isn’t bad. In fact, our survival as a religion likely depended on it. Religions adjust to changes in cultures and advancements in knowledge or they wither and die. Mormons no longer practice polygamy, Christians in Massachusetts no longer kill witches, and a few months ago I was at the Indianapolis Hebrew Temple and saw no evidence of blood sacrifices. Religions change or die. Even though religions change to accommodate cultural sensitivities and intellectual progress, this is seldom done easily and is often resisted by those who consider such changes a departure from God’s Truth. While we don’t always look and act like the Quakers of old, some of our beliefs have endured. I’d like to spend our next several Sundays together talking about those Quaker values which have enjoyed a long life and deservedly so. This way, when you tell your Friends you attend a Quaker meeting and they ask, “What do Quakers believe?”, you will be in a better position to tell them. We’ll refer to these values as The Quaker Basics. The first Quaker basic is the one on which all the others rest, and that’s our belief in the equality of God’s presence. We believe God is directly accessible to all people, that no person, book, church, or religion enjoys exclusive access to God. When George Fox, the founder of Quakerism, was imprisoned in 1656, he sent a letter to Friends urging them to “walk cheerfully over the world, answering that of God in every one.” The phrase “…that of God in every one.” caught on and is still widely used among the various branches of Quakerism. This morning, I would like to talk about what that means and why it is important. Let me begin by contrasting it with other Christian perspectives. I have a friend who believes God is only present in those people who’ve been baptized in the name of Jesus. While he believes God is present in those who’ve accepted Jesus as their Savior, he believes God only speaks through men, though he doesn’t bring that up when his wife is in the vicinity. I have another friend who believes God is only present through the sacraments when administered by a priest. That sounds like magic to me—that if you say the right words and perform the right rituals, God will suddenly be present. But many people believe that and find it helpful. When you think about it, the distinctive point for most religions are their beliefs about God is known to us. The theological term for this is revelation, and when we use that word in religious circles we’re simply talking about how God reveals God’s self to us. We Friends believe the Light of God is in every person of every faith, and even present in those people who profess no faith. God’s presence in us has nothing to do with anything we’ve done. It isn’t something we’ve earned. God’s presence in us isn’t something we’ve achieved because we’ve followed a certain ritual or believed a particular doctrine. Now we might think that some people, because of their behavior, don’t have God’s Presence in them. I would be the first to say that some people seem more aware of God’s Presence in them, that they tend the Light of God in them more tenderly and conscientiously than someone else might. But even those people who ignore God’s Presence in them are just as loved, just as cherished, just as prized as the most devout saint. Because the Light of God within us is never extinguished, and there is always hope that even the most immoral people can grow in their awareness of God’s Presence and live in the reality of God’s Presence more fully. This is salvation, if I may use that term, to the Quaker. We don’t believe God becomes present in our lives when we go to an altar and invite Jesus into our hearts. We don’t believe our kneeling at altar changed God’s mind about us. That belief is 19th Century Revivalism, not Quakerism. Nor do we believe God becomes present in our lives when we’re baptized in water by someone the Church has authorized to do that. Water can do wondrous things, but it is not a magic potion. We believe God has always been present in us. We believe authentic spirituality is about becoming more aware of God’s presence in us and others. We believe in the equality of God’s Presence. We believe God can speak through whomever God wishes to speak. We believe it is dangerously arrogant when any one person, any one church, or any one religion claims to be the only channel through which God can communicate. And while it seems true that some persons are more sensitive to God’s leadings than others, it also seems to be the case that even a blind pig finds an acorn now and then—that persons not known for their spiritual prowess have occasionally hit the nail smack on the head. Consequently, we believe every person should be accorded the respect of being listened to. Our belief in the equality of God’s Presence was a radical notion when Quakers first talked about it 350 years. The people who’d put themselves in charge of God’s revelation didn’t care for it, which is why George Fox found himself in prison in 1656. You know, friends, if you were to ask me to define God, I would have a very difficult time doing that. If you had asked me at the age of fourteen, I could have told you in a moment who God was. Fourteen year-olds say with certainty things which have confounded theologians for centuries. But now I’m not so sure how to define God, and am increasingly suspicious of persons who can. But I do believe this—I do believe this God who defies easy description is connected to every person. I believe God is our common thread, the love which connects all people everywhere. We sometimes live as if that is not true, as if we have little in common with our enemies, little in common with those the world has taught us to fear, but we do have something in common—God’s Presence in us. I believe when we pay attention to that Spirit of God, when we are acutely aware of God’s Presence in us and others, we can live fully, love wastefully, and enjoy lives of deep meaning and great delight. May God’s Spirit in you see the Spirit of God in others! 3
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    Philip Gulley

    Hi everyone! I have been reading all the books written by Philip Gulley and I must say that his works and theology are truly amazing. I have never felt so spiritually alive. I am curious to hear what other people have thought of his books. God bless!
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    An Invitation

    Thanks Brian! I really appreciate your help. I am looking into getting the link back to the home page. I look forward to getting to know you better. Also to Bill. Thank you for signing up and posting as well. The more people participate the better the fellowship will be!
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    An Invitation

    Hi everyone, My journey has taken me down the Christian Universalist path and I invite you all to have a look at my new website www.christianuniversalism.info On my search so far in Universalism I have found a lack of forums and I am hoping to provide somewhere comfortable and open for us to chat. I look forward to you having a look!
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    A Long Journey Home

    his is exactly what I strive for Bill. I feel that we are on very similar paths. As you know I am feeling very strongly about Universalism but this forum (especially our chats) has made me feel like this place is the best place for me at the moment. Thank you for the last few days and I loook forward to building on our friendship!
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    Progressive Universalism

    Thanks for sharing that with me Bill! It is great to talk to someone else who understands that we are all on different journeys and that we all take in things differently. I just long for a place to call my spiritual home and unfortunately there isnt much out there for Universalism in that regard. It is lonely but I have to be true to myself and continue on my individual path to truth regardless of how lonely it is.
  13. is now back at Progressive Christianity and it feels like home!

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    Progressive Universalism

    I thought this may have been the case as you use the same picture but I wasn't sure. What do you think of Unified Deism? Great question!!! You have really got me thinking here and I think I use the word saved because I am so use to saying saved from hell to fundamentalist Christians. When I say hell in this sense I mean the fire and brimstone eternal punishment hell. Please bear with me as I have alot of thoughts running through my mind so this may not flow as well as I would like but I will just speak from the heart. I believe Jesus is part of the trinity and is God. Through the story of Adam and Eve (not literally) humanity has fallen big time. In some cults humans sacrificed other humans because they thout it appeased God. This is not the life that God had planned out for us. Through Gods love Jesus lived as a human and demonstrated the love, generosity, passion, trust and peace that could be our lives here if we followed the same ethics and morals. Jesus saved us from ourselves essentially. He is now at the right hand side of the father with the human experience. We have the connection through a human that leads into the divine! I also believe that we all have an afterlife and can be in heaven with God. I also believe that eventually everyone ends up there but it has to be in their own time. If Jesus didn't come then yes I believe we would all still have an afterlife an eventually be saved but through Jesus and his human existence we have a connection that we can follow. We can in a sense feel what Jesus went through, we can experience the highs and lows of what life has to offer. A year ago if you had told me that this is the path I would have been on I would have laughed and said how ridiculous that is but here I am. This is hard to write because putting it all out there I feel like I will be judged (not saying I will be here but I think through fundamental Christianity I still have that feeling). I am glad to share all of this but as Bill has said previously I have no intention to try and convert or de-convert anybody. This is merely where my path has taken me and I am enjoying the ride! LOL very good! I have struggled with trying to balance the head and the heart for many years but in a way I have decided to take my own leap of faith and follow my intuition.
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    Progressive Universalism

    I completely understand Bill and I love how we can discuss our thoughts with each other. I don't take your responses as arguments as people have to make u their minds on what is right for them. At the moment Universalism is sitting comfortably with me but I know from experience that with further reading, learning and discovery then that could possibly change. It is fantastic that we can discuss our "internal arguments" in a open and respectful way! Again your comments are spot on and the problem with the bible is that in alot of cases you can argue for and argue against many different issues! That is why I basically pick and choose what I feel is right as well. I know that my beliefs could be wrong but I just don't think I could read something and blindly believe it. It has to resonate deep down spiritually for me to go with it. I am open and realistic enough to know that our "feelings" may not be the truth at all but it is a gauge to keeping me sane in this lifetime and all we can do is be true to ourselves! The talks we are having now Bill is te kind of fellowship that I really crave. I wish there was a group near where I live where I could do this but unfortunately there isn't. I have to admit that I am very new to the bible so I cannot answer with too much experience but as I mentioned above with the bible you can argue and interpret in many different ways (as people do). I take the view on Matthew 28 that it is impossible to do because of all the ways we can take different paths plus we dont know what to take literally and what are just stories. That is where we have to be true to ourselves and go with what works for us individually. I don't believe in hell, hating parents, picking up snakes or drinking poison either but I feel I could under the label of progressive christian if I wanted. If I had to use a label I would go with the title of this thread which is "Progressive Universalist" due to the fact that I have always believed that everyone is saved (eventually)and I dont believe in an eternal hell. To me the word progressive enables me to keep an open mind and change my thoughts as I go on my journey if deep down I feel that is the right thing to do. I 100% agree Bill and I love how you have written this. Your ramblings are the fellowship that I have been searching for Bill!