BrotherRog

Jim, I'm not too keen on the Course on Miracles (I find it to be too gnostic, too new agey, and too self-focused) but here is a link to a thread started by Jeep a while back that you might wish to explore: A Course on Miracles http://tcpc.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=49 And here's another related thread: http://tcpc.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=46 Peace. Roger

Here's another new organization. I'm not sure if anyone else has already posted this one or not: www.christianalliance.org Christian Alliance

Here's an inter-faith group to be aware of: Network of Spiritual Progressives http://www.spiritualprogressives.org/ Webpage networkspiritualprogressives.org

When I go out to eat the kind of foods I normally seek out are the ones that I cannot make easily myself at home; e.g. Indian food, Thai food, and authentic Mexican food. ----------- Do you think that Roe v. Wade will actually be overturned after George Jr. installs the new members of the Supreme Court?

Keep in mind that if God is persuasive, then it's not God's fault that the Church has become as divided and messed up as it is, as we humans are able to resist God's leadings and do our own thing instead. God woos but we can be unrequitive lovers.

Okay, my Take 2 didn't work either... So, Let me post it here as an attachment. I was asked to be a guest speaker for a forum for Christian students at a local University tonight and I prepared the attachment found below as a hand out as part of my presentation. I'll be refining that document soon for other purposes and I'm soliciting the feedback and input from the members of this august and sage forum to help it be as helpful as possible. Thank you for your assistance. -BrotherRog Emphases_of_Progressive___Conservative_Christianity.doc

ughh!! I clundn't get it to work in this format... I'll try later.

Some forms of Christianity are highly Hellenized, i.e. assimilated Aristotles notions of an "unmoved mover" (omnipotence, omniscience, etc..) However, there are more open-minded schools of thought within Christianity, e.g.; Denver Journal - 5:0301 - Most Moved Mover. A Theology of God's ...Denver Journal - 5:0301 - Most Moved Mover. A Theology of God's Openness. www.denverseminary.edu/dj/articles2002/0300/0301.php - Amazon.com: Most Moved Mover: A Theology of God's Openness (The ...Amazon.com: Most Moved Mover: A Theology of God's Openness (The Didsbury Lectures): Books by Clark H. Pinnock. www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ tg/detail/-/0801022908?v=glance amazon.com review

we think a lot alike! : )

more food for thought: Taoism and Christianity - Probe Ministries Are Taoism and Christianity compatible? The author says that even though there are some similarities, Christianity's uniqueness remains separate from all ... www.probe.org/content/view/892/0/ - 43k - C Fast Facts on Christianity - ReligionFacts.com Chart showing major similarities and differences between Christianity and the ... comparison charts on Christianity, compare similarities and differences ... www.religionfacts.com/christianity/charts.htm - 39k - Zen and the Art of Digression: Faith and Taoism So this exchange got me to thinking about the similarities and differences ... I suspect that one thing Christianity and Taoism can agree on is this: We do ... zendigress.blogspot.com/2005/09/faith-and-taoism.html - Taoism, religions in China, Tao, dualism, yin and yang, tai chi ... Christian compare and contrast style site about Taoism. religion-cults.com/Eastern/Taoism/taoism.htm - 19k - Similarities of all Religions Christianity: All things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, ... Taoism, Regard your neighbor’s gain as your gain, and your neighbor’s loss as ... biblia.com/theology/religions.htm - 42k Taoism, Confucianism and Christianity Informations about the relation between Taoism, Konfucianism and Christianity. ... In this additional page we go into the similarities and differences ... www.ways-of-christ.net/topics/taoism.htm -

I don't think that Jesus "was trying" to get nailed to the cross, but He knew full well what the likely consequences of His radical actions would be. IMO, instead of seeking a way of harmony and least resistance, He chose a path of great resistance - with defiance even.

bloved, Welcome aboard! We're so pleased to have you join us. May God bless you real good as you participate with us! : )

That said, one major difference is that the Taoist way of least resistance (wu-wei) is the opposite of Jesus' Way of the Cross; i.e. the way of self-sacrificial love.

1. I like Greg Boyd's works. 2. A possible similarity between Christianity and Taoism, IMO, is the "negative theology" of the Eastern Orthodox Church; i.e. their "apophatic" notion that God cannot really be defined by humans. Such a notion is akin to the beginning of the Tao Te Ching where it says "The tao that can be named/defined is not the tao." ; )

Out of print, but well worth seeking out: Praying for Jennifer, by John Cobb, Jr.

In God's Presence: Theological Reflections on Prayer ...Majorie Suchocki shares with us her reflections about prayer from both a ... Prayer is more than simply conversing with God, according to Suchocki. ... www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ tg/detail/-/0827216157?v=glance And, anything by Jane Vennard

Bonjour! Welcome aboard!

I haven't read much of this thread, but, on a related note (pun intended), does anyone here know why the caged Catholic sings? : )

My adivice is to always begin by developing relationships and friendship first. Then use a soft approach that gets them thinking instead of defending; e.g. say "I hear what you're saying, but someone else just told me about another perspective... (describe it), and it seems like there might be some truth or sense to that view to. What do you make of that view?" Also, I advise appealing to their mutal love for this country and it's best interests.. then with the nation's best interests in mind, encourage them to take a genuine look at all of the possible options for addressing our problems. etc. It goes without saying that one should always avoid engaging in attacking persons (ad hominem) or using divisive words that put distance between groups. Instead, keep the conversation focused on addressing and critiquing policy and positions - not persons. Finally, try to come across as humble and not with an "I'm right, your wrong!" attitude. Using some self-effacing humor goes along ways as well; e.g. telling a joke poking fun of quirks of the Democrats/liberals etc. Happy conversing and may you be an effective, gentle, advocate for the progressive way! : )

Here's a very interesting article written by a former Republican: http://thedoormagazine.com/archives/lastword-165.html Former Sodomite

Here's a paraphrase of the Bible that I really enjoyed! Details...The "Greatest Story Ever Retold" is based on the book The Cotton Patch Version of Matthew and John by Clarence Jordan in which the Gospel is presented in a ... www.dramaticpublishing.com/ catalogdetail.cfm?listcode=C05 - 22k - Cached - Similar pages Cotton Patch GospelBook page for Clarence Jordan's Cotton Patch Gospel. These books were published by Smyth & Helwys Publishing, Inc. located in Macon, Georgia. www.helwys.com/cpg/cpg4vols.html - 13k - Cached - Similar pages Review: COTTON PATCH GOSPELCOTTON PATCH GOSPEL. Book by Tom Key & Russell Treyz ... "Cotton Patch Gospel" is based on a bold reinterpretation of the New Testament by translator ... my.en.com/~herone/CottonPatch.html - 7k

I was a philosophy major in college and I know what you're saying. That said, I learned from Christianity that "the wisdom of the world will reject and see as foolish the Wisdom of God." ; ) But, agreed, there are varieties of Christianity, not just one homogeneous way..

That is an easy one. The south is getting hit for [a] supporting Bush, and for oppressing homosexual people. Why do people have such a tough time figuring this out? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ROFL!!! Talk about turning things on their head! : )

that link again: www.biblegateway.com/versions/index. php?action=getVersionInfo&vid=65〈=2

Here's some official info about The Message: BibleGateway.com Version information: The MessageThe Message strives to help readers hear the living Word of God—the Bible—in a way that ... Some people like to read the Bible in Elizabethan English. ... www.biblegateway.com/versions/index. php?action=getVersionInfo&vid=65〈=2 I have used this version of the Bible in my daily devotional life and have also found it to be helpful when preparing sermons. Basically, it reads like a paraphrase that seeks to convey Biblical truths in contemporary speech and colloquialisms. I wouldn't say it's particularly scholarly or literal in its translations, but it does read like a breath of fresh air - on the whole.