TCPC Message Board: Will Fundamental Religionists Ever Find The Mark? - TCPC Message Board

Jump to content

Guidelines

Got a significantly different view? Got an opinion to spout? This is the area, but beware... We will continue to delete posts in all areas of the boards - including this one - that we do not feel are presented in a manner that is respectful of other viewpoints, or seeks to convert, or coerce, or attack.

If you do not subscribe to TCPC 8 points in principle and are a member of this forum, you are still welcome to participate as a member in this area as long as you keep in mind you are expected to behave accordingly. Calling a PC non-Christian or making any derogatory remarks of a personal nature to any other member is not an acceptable part of debate/dialogue on this board. It provokes and serves no useful purpose here. It is always safer to ask questions or just state your point agreement with or against or counterpoint. There need be no losers or winners in this section. We are all here to share, learn, support, understand each other better, encourage and grow in Love rather than to criticize, name call, or telling people they are wrong. PC also respects other religions as listed in Point 2 on the main board. De-meaning or putting down other religions accomplishes nothing and will also not be tolerated here.
Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Will Fundamental Religionists Ever Find The Mark?

#1 User is offline   TheGreatWhiteBuffalo

  • Regular Member
  • PipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 115
  • Joined: 11-December 06
  • Location:
    Quakertown, PA

Posted 28 April 2008 - 06:04 PM

It is rather amusing to see a fundamental religionist holding fast to all of the assumed truths and totally miss the Mark and there would be a good place to begin.

After all, if the Bible and the Gospels are without error then they should be without error.

As with all other religions that incorporate a false premise that is a contradiction to the known truths.

I would reckon to ask just how many other religions are there that have fundamentals following a preset guideline that allows no room for growth?

I can think of seven off the top of my head...

Judaism
Eastern Religions
Wicca
Islam
Scientology
Hinduism

Christianity

To be progressive "we" would need to reconcile all of these groups... Scientology covers a lot of aspects in that I would include Justice or Legal along with Medical structures... They all have belief systems that can play a role in causing corruption to flourish...
Peace and Blessings,

Sincerely,

Gary
0

#2 User is offline   Texas Lynn

  • Guest Member
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 6
  • Joined: 29-October 06

Posted 20 May 2008 - 06:51 PM

As they say "trust someone who is seeking the truth; distrust someone who says he has the truth."
0

#3 User is offline   TheGreatWhiteBuffalo

  • Regular Member
  • PipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 115
  • Joined: 11-December 06
  • Location:
    Quakertown, PA

Posted 21 May 2008 - 04:50 PM

View PostTexas Lynn, on May 20 2008, 07:51 PM, said:

As they say "trust someone who is seeking the truth; distrust someone who says he has the truth."



I will trust a person that knows the truth and tells the truth, how will I know if the truth is being told?

The truth doesn't contradict the main principles that are facts founded on a solid foundation.

We could discuss my personal experience to find the facts that are corroborated by both parties and then seek to find the differences and who or whom contradicts their own testimony...

We could look to the Bible to see if there are any errors or contradictions to the nature and will of GOD...

If GOD is omnipresent and omnipotent then GOD certainly being all knowing and not allowing evil to enter heaven knows the evil parading around as good and when man practices bad religion to cover up the evil created by man then that is where we find contradictions such as calling bad good and good bad.

If we take the evil out of the Bible we could all find a good life for all...

And the truth is? (good/bad)
Peace and Blessings,

Sincerely,

Gary
0

#4 User is offline   October's Autumn

  • Master Contributing Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 1,022
  • Joined: 22-August 05

Posted 23 May 2008 - 07:02 PM

View PostTexas Lynn, on May 20 2008, 06:51 PM, said:

As they say "trust someone who is seeking the truth; distrust someone who says he has the truth."



That is awesome. I love it.
0

#5 User is offline   minsocal

  • Senior Contributing Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 835
  • Joined: 22-December 05

Posted 23 May 2008 - 09:23 PM

View PostOctober, on May 23 2008, 05:02 PM, said:

That is awesome. I love it.


Second the motion.
0

#6 User is offline   Wayseer

  • Regular Member
  • PipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 136
  • Joined: 12-June 07
  • Location:
    Australia

Posted 24 May 2008 - 05:14 PM

There is an old Buddhist saying - If you pass the Buddha on the Path, kill him.

But let me pick up on something GWB said -

Quote

If GOD is omnipresent and omnipotent


At best this is an assumption - indeed, almost a Truth. Perhaps this is where our collective mistake finds its genesis.
Not all those who wander are lost (JRRT)
0

#7 User is offline   McKenna

  • Experienced Member
  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 425
  • Joined: 15-February 07
  • Location:
    USA

Posted 24 May 2008 - 09:27 PM

View PostWayseer, on May 24 2008, 06:14 PM, said:

There is an old Buddhist saying - If you pass the Buddha on the Path, kill him.


Love it!

View PostWayseer, on May 24 2008, 06:14 PM, said:

But let me pick up on something GWB said -

At best this is an assumption - indeed, almost a Truth. Perhaps this is where our collective mistake finds its genesis.


Collective mistake?
Peace, love, and God bless,
McKenna

"Give them not hell, but hope and courage. Preach the everlasting love of God." –John Murray
0

#8 User is offline   Wayseer

  • Regular Member
  • PipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 136
  • Joined: 12-June 07
  • Location:
    Australia

Posted 24 May 2008 - 10:21 PM

View PostMcKenna, on May 25 2008, 12:27 PM, said:

Love it!
Collective mistake?



Perhaps we impose on God our own values - that God needs to be both omnipotent and unchanging. Maybe that our need. I wonder what God would need.
Not all those who wander are lost (JRRT)
0

#9 User is offline   McKenna

  • Experienced Member
  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 425
  • Joined: 15-February 07
  • Location:
    USA

Posted 25 May 2008 - 12:12 PM

View PostWayseer, on May 24 2008, 11:21 PM, said:

Perhaps we impose on God our own values - that God needs to be both omnipotent and unchanging. Maybe that our need. I wonder what God would need.


I think we certainly impose on God our own values and needs. Do you have an answer to the musing at the end of your post? (Just trying to figure out where you're going with this...perhaps I missed something? Always possible :lol: )

:)
Peace, love, and God bless,
McKenna

"Give them not hell, but hope and courage. Preach the everlasting love of God." –John Murray
0

#10 User is offline   TheGreatWhiteBuffalo

  • Regular Member
  • PipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 115
  • Joined: 11-December 06
  • Location:
    Quakertown, PA

Posted 26 May 2008 - 09:18 AM

If GOD is omnipotent and unchanging or omnipresent then GOD needs nothing and so becomes nothing and here is the crux of the problem along with the crucifixion of Jesus we fail to note that GOD has always desired a relationship with us.

GOD wants us to be the children of GOD, so the question is are you a child of GOD?

Do you get nourished by your developed relationships?

Do you find nourishment in sharing?

These are social relationship issues, bringing people together, and not tearing families and friendships apart.

How do we feed the needs of millions?

We all work together... :)
Peace and Blessings,

Sincerely,

Gary
0

#11 User is offline   Wayseer

  • Regular Member
  • PipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 136
  • Joined: 12-June 07
  • Location:
    Australia

Posted 29 May 2008 - 06:24 AM

Yup.
Not all those who wander are lost (JRRT)
0

#12 User is offline   davidk

  • Senior Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 568
  • Joined: 14-September 07
  • Location:
    Georgia

Posted 07 June 2008 - 12:27 PM

View PostTexas Lynn, on May 20 2008, 07:51 PM, said:

As they say "trust someone who is seeking the truth; distrust someone who says he has the truth."

Dear Texas Lynn,
Since you have revealed this to us as the truth, you have likewise declared to us that you have the truth with which to reveal. Therefore, as they say, we cannot trust you. (I really have no reason to mistrust you. It's just a statement that seems clever but is a logical inconsistency. ie; There are no absolutes.)

Dear Wayseer,
In deference to your comment, and assuming you believe in God, the only thing we can impose upon God is... nothing. Which is an inconsistancy alluded to in McKenna's post as a 'musing'.
0

#13 User is offline   minsocal

  • Senior Contributing Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 835
  • Joined: 22-December 05

Posted 07 June 2008 - 08:44 PM

Dear davidk,

The answer to the orginal question posted is "NO".
0
Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users