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#41 Burl

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Posted 09 November 2016 - 04:37 PM

Now that Trump will preside for four years we should reconsider this conversation.
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Posted 10 November 2016 - 07:58 AM

I'm okay with Trump.


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Posted 10 November 2016 - 10:12 AM

Big loss for globalism, the Bush/Clinton crime family and the GOPe.
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If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down.

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Posted 10 November 2016 - 12:41 PM

The Governor asked a teacher: I have read in the scripture the following and I do not know what it means. “A boat driven by unfavorable winds drifts towards the land of the demons.” Please explain it to me.

The teacher responded: What kind of ninny asks such a stupid question!

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The teacher said: A boat driven by unfavorable winds drifts towards the land of the demons. The Governor’s demeanor suddenly changed as he got some understanding.

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Posted 10 November 2016 - 04:33 PM

It seems the people of the USA didn't have an awful lot to choose from.  I didn't particularly like either of the two primary candidates, but I liked Trump a lot less.

 

I am astounded at reports that more than 80% of white evangelical Christians voted for him! 

 

But I truly hope he proves all of his detractors wrong - for the sake of the world.


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Posted 11 November 2016 - 11:03 PM

I'm okay with Trump.

 

I am OK with Trump too. Only because I have no free choice.

 

But I know this, if I worked in a place that 50% of the workers condoned Trump's behaviour, lies and belligerence I would not work at that place. Because I do have a choice, it might not be free but it is a choice.

 

And in the USA ... the voters are the bosses and they just condoned that behaviour.


Edited by romansh, 11 November 2016 - 11:06 PM.

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Posted 11 November 2016 - 11:30 PM

Try as I have for the last few days, I cannot be okay with Trump.  The most I can do is acknowledge his election as president, and that's it.  Out here in California, and I suppose Oregon and Washington too, we feel a bit adrift.  Nearly everyone I've talked to is shocked at this result and many of us wonder about the fear and anger that has gripped the rest of the country.  The West Coast went for Clinton by almost two thirds, the most since FDR.  It wasn't that we liked Clinton, we just despised what Trump stands for.

 

But, we are very progressive out here and diverse.  We like that about us.  On top of that, California is the sixth largest economy in the world (after Brexit).  We voted to increase taxes for the second time in as many elections!  Must be something in the water (what's left of it).  But, Trump says our drought is a myth....a true moron.

 

Good luck with this America....our door is always open!

 

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Posted 13 November 2016 - 08:45 AM

Rom,
I had a difficult time even calling either of the major candidates a real choice but at this moment I am ok with what is. It seems to me no matter what we may say about our fairness in elections publicly, they are in a sense most definitely rigged no matter who wins.

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Posted 13 November 2016 - 01:14 PM

Joseph ... the issue is not fairness. The rules are clear they might not be equitable but they are the same for everyone ... assuming they can rustle up enough enthusiasm amongst the population.

 

In a workplace, at least a workplace I would want to work in, the management would not put up with belligerence and lies ... a bully in fact. In the US, the management, ostensibly the voters, are willing to put up with Trump's behaviour. The current Trump protests, at least the way they have gone down, while understandable will ultimately be counterproductive.

 

My "beef" is with the management (or at least a large portion of it) that endorsed Trump's behaviour.


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Posted 13 November 2016 - 05:35 PM

Joseph ... the issue is not fairness. The rules are clear they might not be equitable but they are the same for everyone ... assuming they can rustle up enough enthusiasm amongst the population.

 

In a workplace, at least a workplace I would want to work in, the management would not put up with belligerence and lies ... a bully in fact. In the US, the management, ostensibly the voters, are willing to put up with Trump's behaviour. The current Trump protests, at least the way they have gone down, while understandable will ultimately be counterproductive.

 

My "beef" is with the management (or at least a large portion of it) that endorsed Trump's behaviour.

The same can be said of Hillary. I would not want to put up with her lies or corruption. Neither, in my opinion, is a good choice but i am ok with what is. I have no issues with fairness nor with my choice.


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Posted 23 January 2017 - 10:51 PM

It strikes me how much Trump is a replay of the final Hebrew judge, Samson.

Samson was irreligious, profane and a cheater yet he was the annointed political leader. Yuuuugge ego. Strong but rather dim. Samson was even famous for ignoring his religious vows and just grabbing the honeycomb.

Samson successfully destroyed the pagan Temple of Dagon by toppling the two pillars much as Trump has destroyed the thoroughly corrupt Democratic and Republican pillars of the pagan UniParty.

And the importance of the hair??? Case closed.
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If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down.

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Posted 24 January 2017 - 03:51 AM

And like all myths, the reality is often far from the truth I would suggest.  Samson for instance is a glorified view - a heroic story to inspire.

 

The reality is that people are usually a lot less than the myth portrays.

 

As for 'destroying' the political establishment, time will tell but I wouldn't be expecting much different in the long term.


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Posted 24 January 2017 - 10:42 AM

It's still funny. Samson was a fool not a hero.
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Posted 25 January 2017 - 08:30 PM

Let's just hope people are still smiling then in 4 years time, for everybody's sake. :)


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