[davidk]

The Warren/Obama controversy no longer has legs. For, in fact, it should have never been one.

[minsocal]

Galatians 3:19-29

19 Why then the law? It was added because of transgressions, until the offspring would come to whom the promise had been made; and it was ordained through angels by a mediator. 20 Now a mediator involves more than one party; but God is one. 21 Is the law then opposed to the promises of God? Certainly not! For if a law had been given that could make alive, then righteousness would indeed come through the law. 22 But the scripture has imprisoned all things under the power of sin, so that what was promised through faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe. 23 Now before faith came, we were imprisoned and guarded under the law until faith would be revealed. 24 Therefore the law was our disciplinarian until Christ came, so that we might be justified by faith. 25 But now that faith has come, we are no longer subject to a disciplinarian, 26 for in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith. 27 As many of you as were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is no longer Jew or Greek, there is no longer slave or free, there is no longer male and female; for all of you are one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to the promise.

Gee, I learned this in Sunday School 50 years ago!

[minsocal]

Post # 82 suggests that the "law" matures and changes over time. That would be consistent with the term "progressive" ... AND the emergent properties of life given by God. Science has proved that a static world (a static creation) does not exist. This is not anti-religion, and some will just have to "get over it".

[davidk]

minsocal, on Mar 16 2009, 06:16 PM, said:

Galatians 3:19-29

That's nice, but what does this have to do with Obama/ Warren?

minsocal said:

Post # 82 suggests that the "law" matures and changes over time. That would be consistent with the term "progressive" ... AND the emergent properties of life given by God. Science has proved that a static world (a static creation) does not exist. This is not anti-religion, and some will just have to "get over it".

That the Bible implies God's Law changes seems more than a little farfetched.

Somewhere around 1948, Fred Hoyle proposed the Steady State Theory, saying, among other things, that the Big Bang Theory is a first cause dogma in line with Western theology rather than science.
The description of a noisy, ever moving universe of time, space and matter runs in opposition to the static theories that "all existence is just one silent consciousness"----------Wait a minute--- !

You got me again, - what does any of this have to do with Obama?

This post has been edited by davidk: 17 March 2009 - 12:46 AM

[minsocal]

What remains unresolved is the behavior of the so-called 'religious right' and those they oppose. If you think it is right for a Christian to yell in public, "your parents are baby killers" to a 14 year old, then we have a very different issue. If you think it is right for conservative Christians to throw eggs on the cars of those they oppose, speak up.

davidk, answer up, please.

[minsocal]

minsocal, on Mar 17 2009, 01:41 PM, said:

What remains unresolved is the behavior of the so-called 'religious right' and those they oppose. If you think it is right for a Christian to yell in public, "your parents are baby killers" to a 14 year old, then we have a very different issue. If you think it is right for conservative Christians to throw eggs on the cars of those they oppose, speak up.

davidk, answer up, please.

You might note davidk, that Progessive Christians do not do these kind of things! Ever wonder why?

[davidk]

minsocal, on Mar 17 2009, 05:41 PM, said:

What remains unresolved is the behavior of the so-called 'religious right' and those they oppose. If you think it is right for a Christian to yell in public, "your parents are baby killers" to a 14 year old, then we have a very different issue. If you think it is right for conservative Christians to throw eggs on the cars of those they oppose, speak up.

davidk, answer up, please.

minsocal, on Mar 17 2009, 06:34 PM, said:

You might note davidk, that Progessive Christians do not do these kind of things! Ever wonder why?

I think you would agree that had the 'parents' had killed a baby, it would be justifiable for anyone to make such a passionate outburst. The age of the person seems irrelevant. But it appears you seem to believe that confronting a murderer in public is more offensive than the murder itself. If Progressives could not outraged enough to confront someone in public over the murder of a baby, you would be sorely disappointed, and rightfully so.

If the 'parents' had not killed a baby, such behavior would certainly have been unwarranted, and would certainly not be appropriate Christian behavior.

I'm sure Progressives have impeccable public behavior.

I wonder who they could have been that were hurling obscenities along with their coathangers?
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Unless you can address Obama/ Warren I'm through responding to your opprobrious remarks on this thread.

[minsocal]

davidk, on Mar 18 2009, 08:36 PM, said:

I think you would agree that had the 'parents' had killed a baby, it would be justifiable for anyone to make such a passionate outburst. The age of the person seems irrelevant. But it appears you seem to believe that confronting a murderer in public is more offensive than the murder itself. If Progressives could not outraged enough to confront someone in public over the murder of a baby, you would be sorely disappointed, and rightfully so.

If the 'parents' had not killed a baby, such behavior would certainly have been unwarranted, and would certainly not be appropriate Christian behavior.

I'm sure Progressives have impeccable public behavior.

I wonder who they could have been that were hurling obscenities along with their coathangers?
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Unless you can address Obama/ Warren I'm through responding to your opprobrious remarks on this thread.

You have stated everything I wanted to get out of you. We are done.