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  1. Thanks JenellYB! "Sanctify This Love" would be perfect at a wedding. I like the words in these samples. Janet
  2. I just found a new "Progressive Christian" song. Enjoy! I just LOVE the lyric "Keep tryin' to find the balance of our love and our convictions.." Janet
  3. Boy, I hope the United Methodist Church follows suit soon!
  4. I love your profile pic!

  5. Neon - I think you're right on about God Help the Outcasts! Rivanna, I listened to a bunch of Bruce Cockburn today. "The Gift" is awesome! Thanks! Janet
  6. I think the controversy is that he still believes he is "evangelical". I agree that the ideas are not revolutionary, but I'm glad to know how far back they go, Karen! Janet
  7. Thanks, Karen, for posting this. It is a gem and makes me see why the book has become so popular (and also so hated). It calls us to be more than we are! Janet
  8. Two more ideas: "The Motions" by Matthew West and "The One Thing" by Paul Coleman. "The One Thing" starts with "Here I am in a river of questions. Can I pour my heart out to a listening ear?" and says "the one thing I don't question is You. You really love me like you say you do." Perfect for TCPC! "The Motions" is a call to feel God's passion to help us fight through the nothingness of life, which is why so many are seeking here. Feeling like there's something more... Let's keep sharing! Janet
  9. "Face of Love" by Sanctus Real. "Give Me Your Eyes" by Brandon Heath. More to come. These were just my first two thoughts. PLEASE let's keep this going. I need these kinds of resources for music ministry within the Methodist church. Janet
  10. "Is true faith one that is completely 'full', and totally sure of what is believed? Or is it one that keeps room for more growth and truth? " I think the latter... I thought maybe you should call this thread Open Minds Janet
  11. Ada, The post reminded me of the movie comedy, "Defending Your Life." Also, somewhat, of CS Lewis's "The Great Divorce," although in that book, the person does not get reborn, they just have infinite opportuties to move from separation from God to closeness with God, even after they die. The other good book I read on the subject was M.Scott Peck's "In Heaven As on Earth.", where the issues are figured out not in another life, but in a green room. Some things about that book I did not like, but I liked the idea of this life preparing us for the after life. Thanks for posting your thoughts! Jaent
  12. Adi, Me, too. There are beautiful "truths" in the music, even though I don't consider them literally "true." My fellow band mates laugh at my attempt to make sure all lyrics conform to my theology before we sing them They've gone so far as to call me the "Lyric Nazi," so I've tried to relax and understand that just because a particular song makes me cringe it may be precious to someone else. I've tried the thing of just letting the rest of the band sing words I don't want to, but my hubby says it just looks like I forgot to sing. For example, with the line "I'm forgiven, because you were forsaken", I would just leave out "because" and be fine with the rest of the song. I've also tried writing some music, but so far it's not topping the Christian Rock radio charts Thanks for bringing us back to the topic! Janet
  13. Mike, You're right that I'm obviously not the target market of that station, but we liberal Christians like music, too Interestingly, the webmaster from the station replied via facebook message to me today (I have shared your concerns about the Abounding Grace Minute with our General Manager. You were not the only one to express such concerns and I appreciate your doing so.) and I was glad to hear this, but disappointed that he removed my post off their wall. I understand it was not good advertising, but I think a public reply would have been better. I was also looking forward to hearing someone who supported such talk explain to me why.... As far as the question about what to do with black and white text, I haven't so far found the quote in the Bible that homosexuality is at the bottom of the downward spiral of depravity. In fact, there are many, many abominations and many offenses punishable by death in the Bible, but I don't see any kind of ranking... It is a very human perspective reflected in the Bible. Recently Leviticus 20:13 has come into the spotlight again in Africa, to try to justify the death penalty for male-male sex. 4 verses earlier, a child that curses his father or mother deserves the death penalty too. In another part of the Pentetuch (Numbers 5) there is a whole section on The Test for an Unfaithful Wife, where a jealous husband with no proof can have a priest make his wife drink a bitter potion that might kill her. Obviously humans have learned much about God since those times. I know I don't need to convince you, Mike -- again I'm just ranting.... Thanks for your wish of Peace. I know Jesus will grant that if I ask Him. Janet
  14. Hey all, I'm so frustrated with the lack of good progressive Christian rock radio!! Actually I can stand most of the music played on WAY-FM and KLOVE (our Christian pop stations), but yesterday I got so disgusted and angry I had to turn it off!! Between songs, they aired an "Abounding Grace Minute" from Calvary Chapel on my favorite WAY-FM. Let's just say it was very hateful and diametrically opposed to my thinking about homosexuality. The speaker was saying "The Bible teaches that there is no greater depravity in the downward spiral!!!!" Where does it say THAT??? Then right after, the speaker started saying how we should show Jesus' love to people struggling with this... and thought I heard God crying in frustration!! I was actually hoping God would toss a lighting bolt toward Calvary Chapel, but since I don't believe God causes disasters in our world.... Anyway, this has totally wrecked my ability to listen to Christian radio in the short term. It doesn't matter that I'm not gay. I'm trying to decide if I should circulate a petition asking the station to stop airing Calvary Chapel's hatred and misinformation. I certainly don't feel like giving them any more money to spread that kind of message! Sorry for the rant! Your thoughts? Janet
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